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Old 01-17-2013, 07:10 AM   #21
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I have gone through 9 BMW's, 2 Mercedes, 2 Maserati's, 1 Infiniti, and 1 Lexus. Almost all have been new and in most cases I've owned 2 at a time.
Two new luxury cars a year, most similar if not the same type? This is the part that makes me think BS. But if it is true, it is pathological. Follow the above suggestions to divert 50% of your gross to savings but retain enough to seek out a good counselor.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:24 AM   #22
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I dont' know if this is BS or not so here goes.
MDC86, the car industry loves you as you are helping to make them rich.!!

Perhaps if you think of it in terms of "who you are making rich" it might help you realize you could help make yourself richer, faster if you curb some of your car buying. As you have already indicated, when you resell you are the one that looses. I'm assuming that was hard earned money you lost on the value of a trade in.

You are one of the most fortunate young people I know but you don't seem to realize it. Could be a little maturity is in order. At this rate, you will need somewhere north of 11 million to support your current life style. Even making $350K that can take a long time to save.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:21 AM   #23
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Ditto, sounds like BS to me as well.
Might be BS, but I've seen salespeople at my company earning that kind of money or better in their late-20s. Some of the sales VPs in their mid-30s are earning close to 7-figures.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:35 AM   #24
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Unless you have a CEO as a father with unilateral powers, I find this very hard to believe. Further more, if anyone has the brains, drive, skills, and experience to talk themselves into a finance position at a Fortune 500 company at such an age and to remain in that position for any length of time, they certainly do not need to be asking this forum for advice.

Also, such a salary is not commensurate with a Director's title in the world of mega-corps.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:41 AM   #25
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That kind of salary would not go to a 20 something at my former company.
Maybe at some it would. It seems pretty doubtful to me.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:49 AM   #26
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I'm reluctant to post this however I understand why my post seems out of the norm. I agree I do make a lot for my age and I do not take it for granted. I feel their is a lot to be learned on this forum but if I am going to contribute one day then I need to have some credibility. I hope after I post this we can get back to the topic at hand. I have already heard some good ideas. I have even thought about seeing a therapist in the past for my issue with spending on vehicles, that was great advice. What I attached is a monthly check I received a couple days ago, I get paid my actual check the 15th of each month and also get $1,000 a week.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:53 AM   #27
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I started making good money as a young man (pharma sales). Not the kind of money you are talking about tho....
I started saving right away - even selling my personal vehicle and using the company vehicle to save on insurance and gas etc. The main motivator for me was fear. Turn over in the industry was high and if your numbers went south you were gone. I saved early on because I was afraid I would be looking for a job - it became a habit and I enjoyed investing and watching the balence grow. Got lucky, was good at my job and was promoted stayed for over 20 years - the biggest luck was having enough money when I had had enough of the BS and could jump ship. I remember my Dad saying "debt is good for a young man"! I think fear is!
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:20 AM   #28
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I can relate somewhat, since I own four Ferraris myself (as seen below).
However, I enjoy collecting them enough that I've never sold one.

I would advise asking yourself why you feel it necessary to go through your cars so quickly.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:28 AM   #29
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I'm reluctant to post this however I understand why my post seems out of the norm. I agree I do make a lot for my age and I do not take it for granted. I feel their is a lot to be learned on this forum but if I am going to contribute one day then I need to have some credibility. I hope after I post this we can get back to the topic at hand. I have already heard some good ideas. I have even thought about seeing a therapist in the past for my issue with spending on vehicles, that was great advice. What I attached is a monthly check I received a couple days ago, I get paid my actual check the 15th of each month and also get $1,000 a week.
Sorry, I'm still skeptical. The right column of that ADP paystub (which is not in the image) would show YTD. And of course, for the first check of this year both columns would be the same.

I could tell you that I make $360K a year and show you that portion of my ADP payroll bonus check stub from last year ($30K) but it does not confirm that I was paid that every pay period.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:54 AM   #30
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I owned a couple of Corvettes in my early thirties and motorcyles later. I now drive a 18 yr old pickup; no desire for a sports car and my last cycle has been collecting dust.

I owned an aerobatic plane in my late thirties/forties. No longer have an overwhelming desire for one.

Your wants will change as you age. Enjoy your toys while you are young. You will have lasting memories.
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:59 AM   #31
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Sorry, I'm still skeptical. The right column of that ADP paystub (which is not in the image) would show YTD. And of course, for the first check of this year both columns would be the same.
Do Fortune 500s use ADP for payroll?

In any case, the OP needs to know how much they're spending. It looks like, at the OP's spending+savings rate, he/she won't be retiring for a good, long, time.

Edit: Using a salary calculator, the take home is about $190000. Minus the reported savings yields about $70,000 in spendable cash. If the OP is really spending only $70,000 and saving $120,000 then no problem.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:32 PM   #32
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if anyone has the brains, drive, skills, and experience to talk themselves into a finance position at a Fortune 500 company at such an age and to remain in that position for any length of time, they certainly do not need to be asking this forum for advice..

Very good point! While I understand my business quite well, I find that spending your own money on material things is quite different. Their is emotion involved while with the company it is pure logic, no emotion. I guess what I am trying to get out of this site of how does everyone not spend the money they are saving, especially when that number starts to really grow into the 6 and 7 figures and all of a sudden $5k or $50k doesn't seem like a ton anymore.

As far as everyone not believing me, I completely respect that. I learned a long time ago that if you have nothing nice to say then don't say it at all, so please have some respect. If you don't believe my postion and situation that is completly ok by me, but kinkly choose to not hit the reply button. I am not looking for attention here nor do I think this thread would turn into what it has at a place like this. Let's please get back to topic or let the thread die seeing how I was only trying to introduce myself. Thanks!
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:40 PM   #33
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While this sounds like bragging I am just trying to make a point that I have a interest in something and because I have the means for it to be funded, well its been spiraling out of control.

I know my car buying problem is hindering my ability to retire at a very young age. Cheers!
So let's get back to the original question. There are two points you make:
You have an expensive hobby - driving luxury cars
You want to retire early

Posters have given you lots of suggestions regarding your finances. But these are not financial questions you are asking - they are lifestyle questions.

You have an expensive hobby. If you feel the hobby is taking over your life, use your resources to get help in understanding what motivates you to invest in the hobby. Besides driving these cars, what do you do with them?

You need to ask yourself what you want from your money. You can do a lot with it besides buy two luxury cars a year. What other things can you do with this resource that will give you pleasure (not just the pleasure of owning a thing). Given your experience and your resources there are plenty of non-profits who would give anything to have you on their board of directors. Assuming that is the way you want to spend your time and believe in their mission enough to donate to the cause.

You need to consider what you want from your life, because retiring early without considering that question will result in an unhappy life.

I commend you for your early success in your career. I hope you find answers to your lifestyle questions. Others can suggest what you should do, but ultimately you have to ask yourself what you want from your life.

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Old 01-17-2013, 12:44 PM   #34
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Very good point! While I understand my business quite well, I find that spending your own money on material things is quite different. Their is emotion involved while with the company it is pure logic, no emotion. I guess what I am trying to get out of this site of how does everyone not spend the money they are saving, especially when that number starts to really grow into the 6 and 7 figures and all of a sudden $5k or $50k doesn't seem like a ton anymore.
I think most people here who have a 7-figure portfolio would think that $5K or $50K is a ton of money. Say you have a $2M portfolio. In this low yield environment, this kind of portfolio can only support about $60K in spending per year if you don't want to eat into your principal. So blowing $50K or even $5K is a big deal. You certainly can't afford to buy Ferraris every other year on this kind of budget.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:50 PM   #35
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One suggestion on the car front, is to get one good car as your daily driver (like the audi), and then just rent the "fun" cars when you're looking for some excitement. My hubby's boss does this, and it allows him to check out a lot of different cars, without the ownership and depreciation costs. It's still an expensive hobby, but at least it's more easily controlled.

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Do fortune 500 companies use ADP?
Yep - I work for a fortune 500 company, and payroll is adp.

As far as salary - I have a family member who graduated top of his class from Wharton and was making about $300k 2 years out of college. But he was working on Wall Street. He switched careers (to one less lucrative, but much more satisfying) and now makes less than half what he did back then. His choice... but he's happy.

I also know the CFO at our company (which was fortune 500 and acquired by a fortune 50) had a base salary of around $375k before bonuses and stock. But he was in his mid-40's. I think he's retired now since he had a *very* nice parachute associated with the buy out. Directors were no where near his pay.... he was a c-exec and had to sign off on the quarterly statements.
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ok, maybe I am just jealous, but I am calling bs on this story (even with the pictures). I mean who in their right mind would give a 25 year old a 350k job in corporate America? Am I the only one who is doubting this? Usually when something is to good to be true, it is. So where is the catch?
Certainly not where I work. I work in the Finance Dept for one of the largest well known multinational corporation and under no circumstance will a 25 year old no matter how smart could become a Finance Director. My goodness, first you have to thorougly learn the business by moving around several Finance Dept - Operations, Marketing and Sales Finance, Accounting and Reporting, etc, etc.
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Might be BS, but I've seen salespeople at my company earning that kind of money or better in their late-20s. Some of the sales VPs in their mid-30s are earning close to 7-figures.
Sales, possibly. Finance, definitely not.
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As far as everyone not believing me, I completely respect that. I learned a long time ago that if you have nothing nice to say then don't say it at all, so please have some respect. If you don't believe my postion and situation that is completly ok by me, but kinkly choose to not hit the reply button. I am not looking for attention here nor do I think this thread would turn into what it has at a place like this. Let's please get back to topic or let the thread die seeing how I was only trying to introduce myself. Thanks!
You have to admit this situation is not the usual thing around here.

Getting back to your questions, I would ask how regular is your income. That is, what % is base salary paid every 2 weeks and what % is at risk, variable or bonus, and may not be paid.
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Very good point! While I understand my business quite well, I find that spending your own money on material things is quite different. Their is emotion involved while with the company it is pure logic, no emotion. I guess what I am trying to get out of this site of how does everyone not spend the money they are saving, especially when that number starts to really grow into the 6 and 7 figures and all of a sudden $5k or $50k doesn't seem like a ton anymore.

As far as everyone not believing me, I completely respect that. I learned a long time ago that if you have nothing nice to say then don't say it at all, so please have some respect. If you don't believe my postion and situation that is completly ok by me, but kinkly choose to not hit the reply button. I am not looking for attention here nor do I think this thread would turn into what it has at a place like this. Let's please get back to topic or let the thread die seeing how I was only trying to introduce myself. Thanks!
Guess, grammar and proper writing skills are not required to be a Finance Director at your mega corp.
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