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Dryer sheet wannabe
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bass player with no strings!
Hi!
I'm 61 and have had full time jobs most of my life. Playing bass guitar is my passion and I plan to continue playing as long as I physically can. For a few years when I was younger I actually was able to survive playing professionally. I was laid off my last full time job in July and am currently collecting unemployment, about $1620 a month. Truth be told, I have no great desire to go back to work. If I can escape the need for a full time job and just focus on music and playing bass, that would be a very satisfying life for me. Most likely the unemployment payments will continue until around February/March 09. I'm looking at the option of retiring when I am 62 and eligible for Social Security in April 09. I will collect about $1000 a month. My last job paid about 38K of which I took home roughly $2000 a month. I can live fairly cheap and was quite comfortable on that much. I have no dependents and no debt. I have a mix of bank accounts, IRA's and a small 401k from my last job. None of the current assets are particularly strong investments. Most are very conservative (savings accounts, CD's, Money Market, etc.) altho I am losing a bit right now with this current mess. I rent an apartment so I have no real assets other than these. All together it comes to about $400,000. I have talked with a financial adviser at HSBC and another at Fidelity and they have offered some options but I'm still looking around and trying to decide the best way to do this if I can. Most of my peers have good pension plans or other arrangements where they can't really advise me much. I'm hoping to get some advice here. Thanks and hello to everyone! |
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Welcome!
How about health insurance? (Perhaps you can supplement income giving lessons? I pay $20 a session for my daughter's bass lessons - officially 30 minutes, but they average 45, sometimes more, sometimes less.)
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It's quite possible I will supplement income with teaching or playing. I would enjoy doing either or both. Or I might even decide to take on some other form of work. I'd still like to see if I can become financially independent of any need for a job. |
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![]() You may be right but when I was working, my take home was a bit under $2000 per month. That was enough for me and, yes, I'm in New York City. I live very cheap. It can be done even in Manhattan. I ride a bicycle to get around, as I always have, I don't have cable, just Netflix, I live in a small studio. Even now on unemployment I am getting by OK admittedly feeling a pinch here and there. It is expensive to live in Manhattan and I may choose to move but $2000 a month can be enough even here. |
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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The "no health insurance" is the HUGE consideration. The 400K can be wiped out in one instance of a major health issue. I would try to find any job that would get me Health Insurance until Medicare age. OR I would figure a way to LOCK UP the 400k so a health issue would not affect it.
For instance, purchasing an annuity at 62/single for 400k with increasing payments (for inflation) would bring in another 1800+ per month. If he did that wouldn't this protect him if he had a major medical issue?
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What would you get from Social Security? If you can live on 2K/month in NYC, you can probably live on 1.4K in rural area.
If you really want to do this, you could. Here are some steps I'd take: 1. Get a high-deductible health insurance plan 2. Move to a small town which has a lower cost of living, but enough gig opportunities (this only works for bass players and drummers). 3. Become an expert on investing
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He said $1000/mo from SS at 62
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1. I am setting up insurance thru a program called "healthyNY". Individuals are eligible if income is under $2160. It'll run me about $260/month with Empire blue cross. 2. Small town with gig opportunities? where? My assessment: Small town=car=maintenance=insurance=gas$$ big city=no car needed=more gig options big city=bicycle=exercise=healthy, cheaper, greener 3. I've never been very savvy with investing which is why I am here. That's where I do need help. ![]() |
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Yes, you're right, you'd probably need a car in a small town. Other savings might offset that or not.
As to more gig options in a big city -- that's probably also true, but there will be more gig competitors as well. Pay/gig is probably lower in small town. I'm still guessing that there are towns that would, overall, be cheaper for you to live in than NYC. Here's a thread about recommended books.
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