Really great forum, learning a lot so thanks everybody.
Couple in late thirties, Mom already retired from Megacorp, Dad trying to pack the bags ASAP (next 5-7 years realistically). 2 young kids ( 6 & 9).
Since we are in India there are lot of things which are different compared to US :
Inflation : Atleast 6%, food inflation could be as high as 10-15%
Guaranteed returns : 8% in RBI Bonds, 9% if you are above 60 but offcourse inflation is huge
Tax Rates : It should be possible to plan so that tax outlay is < 10%
Market returns : Average 12-15% easy but volatility is really high
Goals :
Kids education : 250K invested, should take care of Post grad education + Marriage expenses (Another quirk of India, spending serious money on kids marriages is not really optional specially for girls)
House: We are constructing 2 houses, one is for self and another one for rental. Both will be paid off.
DH's Retirement: he is making good money ($75K+ which is probably $300K+ based on PPP) but doesn't have a life, is working 12-14 hours avg. . Our expenses are controlled ( around 18-20K per annum, changes based on $-Rs rate).
We are expecting $6K+ in rental income which will be assigned to vacation expenses (discreationary), so we can happily survive in $14-15K. At such young age don't feel comfortable going beyond 3% withdrawl rate so working towards corpus of approximately $550 K. (10% tax rate considered). In India we can be self-insured for medical with a capital of $40-50K. One normal dr. visit could be done in $5 Dr. fees (or even lesser) and $5 for medication. Complete medical exam would cost $100 or less.
We hardly have $150K in Retirement folio and we are saving $30-35K every year towards the goal. will be putting all the raises/bonuses into it. Hope for 10+% returns. (could be lot more as Indian market goes or go down by 50% :-( as kids folio went but recovered all of it)
What bothers me is high infaltion and high volatility of returns. I would love to go down to 2% withdrawal rate but would take lot more years to save and I don't want my DH to suffer his job more than absolutely needed. I could possibly get a job paying $15-20K pa but that will have huge impact on quality of life and kids education. (DH & kids get 3 freshly cooked meals on table + are expected to contribute almost no time & effort to running of house) Or may be go for 20% stocks and mostly fixed income (Guaranteed by Govt. of India). Also our flexibility is limited with 2 young kids, after they go out we can adjust our expenses lot easier. Also houses will be approximately worth 350K & 250K so extreme case we can liquidate them in later years. Currently its possible to get a 2-3 bedroom apartment in $50-60K so houses are a bit of McMansions (specially by Indian standards
Oh BTW I recently became CFP (Costed me < $1K on self-study basis) and am trying to do CFA course work (on self-study basis again) so I am qualified enough to make this life changing decision and manage the folio for 40-50 years of expected retirement duration.
Thanks for reading. Your ideas, suggestions, thoughts welcome.
-DesiGirl
Couple in late thirties, Mom already retired from Megacorp, Dad trying to pack the bags ASAP (next 5-7 years realistically). 2 young kids ( 6 & 9).
Since we are in India there are lot of things which are different compared to US :
Inflation : Atleast 6%, food inflation could be as high as 10-15%
Guaranteed returns : 8% in RBI Bonds, 9% if you are above 60 but offcourse inflation is huge
Tax Rates : It should be possible to plan so that tax outlay is < 10%
Market returns : Average 12-15% easy but volatility is really high
Goals :
Kids education : 250K invested, should take care of Post grad education + Marriage expenses (Another quirk of India, spending serious money on kids marriages is not really optional specially for girls)
House: We are constructing 2 houses, one is for self and another one for rental. Both will be paid off.
DH's Retirement: he is making good money ($75K+ which is probably $300K+ based on PPP) but doesn't have a life, is working 12-14 hours avg. . Our expenses are controlled ( around 18-20K per annum, changes based on $-Rs rate).
We are expecting $6K+ in rental income which will be assigned to vacation expenses (discreationary), so we can happily survive in $14-15K. At such young age don't feel comfortable going beyond 3% withdrawl rate so working towards corpus of approximately $550 K. (10% tax rate considered). In India we can be self-insured for medical with a capital of $40-50K. One normal dr. visit could be done in $5 Dr. fees (or even lesser) and $5 for medication. Complete medical exam would cost $100 or less.
We hardly have $150K in Retirement folio and we are saving $30-35K every year towards the goal. will be putting all the raises/bonuses into it. Hope for 10+% returns. (could be lot more as Indian market goes or go down by 50% :-( as kids folio went but recovered all of it)
What bothers me is high infaltion and high volatility of returns. I would love to go down to 2% withdrawal rate but would take lot more years to save and I don't want my DH to suffer his job more than absolutely needed. I could possibly get a job paying $15-20K pa but that will have huge impact on quality of life and kids education. (DH & kids get 3 freshly cooked meals on table + are expected to contribute almost no time & effort to running of house) Or may be go for 20% stocks and mostly fixed income (Guaranteed by Govt. of India). Also our flexibility is limited with 2 young kids, after they go out we can adjust our expenses lot easier. Also houses will be approximately worth 350K & 250K so extreme case we can liquidate them in later years. Currently its possible to get a 2-3 bedroom apartment in $50-60K so houses are a bit of McMansions (specially by Indian standards
Oh BTW I recently became CFP (Costed me < $1K on self-study basis) and am trying to do CFA course work (on self-study basis again) so I am qualified enough to make this life changing decision and manage the folio for 40-50 years of expected retirement duration.
Thanks for reading. Your ideas, suggestions, thoughts welcome.
-DesiGirl