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Old 11-26-2007, 12:32 AM   #21
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But I have to say, reading this thread and comparing it to 95% of the more recent ones shows how far the level of discourse has fallen over past 5 years. Maybe it is because I arrived, but Ted left.
Maybe the larger a board gets, the more it moves toward the lowest common denominator. Or maybe us curmudgeons just sit around griping about "these kids today" instead of finding new ways to bring up the level.

I have to admit that the quality of Ted's posts didn't remain at the lofty standards with which he started, let alone something approaching the meaning of the word "discourse".
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Good resurrection Ha!

I do think it is easy to get curmudgiony after you have been here a while. We told our interesting stories. We learned most of the important stuff regarding ER and now only ask about TVs and iPods. We repetitiously argue about health care reform, public assistance and estate taxes with whoever new comes along, getting sloppier and less thoughtful in the process. Oh wait, I am talking about me!

I do think some of us get too testy and less thoughtful when the same topics come up over and over again. But it isn't a rehash, it is new for the new posters.

Our culture is in large part driven by the ones who post the most. If all of us who have been here a long time and post a LOT stopped or backed way off, maybe the place would "refresh."

Or not.

But I am addicted to this ungainly coffee shop, and still enjoy most all the conversations. From milk to isolationist politics. But a new Ted or two would be nice to have around.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:25 AM   #23
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Our culture is in large part driven by the ones who post the most. If all of us who have been here a long time and post a LOT stopped or backed way off, maybe the place would "refresh."
Hey, if you dropped the top 10-20 posters from the board, it'd be Greaney's board. With a lot fewer moderators:

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I brought up some of the elegant discourse from Ted's last post:
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So if you don't like my negative comments about people who want to drop out of the workforce, maximize their social security benefits and reduce their taxes, and then claim that they are doing the rest of the country some sort of favor, screw you. Just don't read them.
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Yup, Ted sure got testy at the end.
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I brought up some of the elegant discourse from Ted's last post:
I liked the part better where he said we were all leeches and he didnt want to share his investing knowledge with unproductive members of society anymore.
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Economies are dynamic systems

and will call forth the response needed. The dependency ratio has risen for a long time and I expect it to continue to do so. If there is need for people to work longer, there will be greater demand for their services and they will find it attractive to delay their retirements; if not, they won't. Any problem we face is small compared to Japan, Europe, and even China. Fortunately investment returns are set on the margin, so as long as there are emerging and developing markets and productivity innovation, returns will be higher than those of a static or declining economy.
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............. Any problem we face is small compared to Japan, Europe, and even China. .............

Good point. In the future China won't just be a nation of old people, it will be a nation of old MEN.
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In the future China won't just be a nation of old people, it will be a nation of old MEN.
Oh please God, spare us that. I are one, so I should know.

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I see Mr. John Galt never changed his tune. Why would you post the fact that you aren't interested in a subject/thread...10,000 times? We would know that by...you...not...posting!

I agree with aenlighten. Demand will exceed supply, and prices will rise. Maybe in a few years I'll be able to work part time from home, be totally flex on my schedule, maybe they'll raise my 401k matching contribution? Thanks for retiring, boomers!
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Why would you post the fact that you aren't interested in a subject/thread...10,000 times?
A vacuum is sometimes better than some of the things nature decides to fill it with...
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I see Mr. John Galt never changed his tune. Why would you post the fact that you aren't interested in a subject/thread...10,000 times? We would know that by...you...not...posting!
I forgot to mention that. I thought the posts in this thread were interesting, save for that idiot Galt's. BTW, I also think many threads today are very useful. I really should have made that clear. TVs and stuff are day to day things we deal with and I for one am an idiot on consumer data. I will likely remain so as I only get interested if I want to buy something and even then it is hard for me to motivate myself to spend time researching. Also I hate shopping. Yet I do like consumer goods, so when I go to buy something it is very helpful to me to check here to see what people on the board have said about the product that I am focused on.

Even so it might be nice if someone came along and started a thread with intellectual interest. I might not even participate, but I would enjoy it. Of course I guess that is what blogs are for.

I am kind of a creature of habit. I come here and if I donít find something I want to read I will probably go out, or read some 10ks.

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Even so it might be nice if someone came along and started a thread with intellectual interest. I might not even participate, but I would enjoy it. Of course I guess that is what blogs are for.


Ha
Now who would want to do a silly thing like that! I hung in long enough to get a Curmudgeon certificate, tell people about my ding dong sister who STILL insists the Pats are a good football team(even after last night). I mean winning isn't everything( I don't want to hear - good teams win ugly).

And in spite of my sage advice - I bet somebody somewhere will continue to read books!

heh heh heh - and no I haven't checked tonight's temp in Missoula or priced generic dryer sheets lately.

Pssst - Wellesley! Still love that one!
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Pssst - Wellesley! Still love that one!
Uncle Mick, you are a constant lover. Ms. Wellesley is a lucky girl.

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Shhh...dont tell UM that I've been spending a little time with Ms. Wellesley myself lately...

She's unexciting but reliable.
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Beats making time with de Gaulle.
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Even so it might be nice if someone came along and started a thread with intellectual interest. I might not even participate, but I would enjoy it. Of course I guess that is what blogs are for.
Oh, great, only 4900 members on this board and now you want one that posts with intellectual interest?

Like Groucho, I'm not sure they'd be interested in joining a club where they'd be the only intellectual...

JG claimed to be a MENSA member-- did that count?
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tell people about my ding dong sister who STILL insists the Pats are a good football team(even after last night). I mean winning isn't everything( I don't want to hear - good teams win ugly).
I was at that game UncleMick. It was worth the 20degree windchill up in the top section. Great game and the pats defence was just awful till the 2nd interception. But they got the job done - pats & wellesly what else do you need anyway!

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Beats making time with de Gaulle.
Yep - love to mis spell and mis quote that guy also.

Plus don't forget those those other great intellects of high finance - Yogi and Bear Bryant.

?? did this thread ever have a 'real' subject?



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I'm going with a hybrid system where I follow the advice of Yogi Bear.

Grab any picnic baskets you see, watch out for the ranger, and make a little extra effort to be smarter than the average bear...
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Ah yes Annette on Mickey Mouse Club or Yogi exiting stage right - life was good back then.



heh heh heh - guess what! no Pssst - Wellesley in 1958! Only Wellington or Dodge and Cox. Before Index - the age of innocence!
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