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08-05-2019, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Gumby
I did not retire to escape work. In fact, I had several totally different careers and I enjoyed them all. I liked the work I did. I liked the people I worked with. I liked the life I led while doing it. I retired simply so I could spend more time doing other stuff that can't be done when you work full time. Like everything else in my life, I plotted out my course, followed that course, and reached my destination on the chosen day.
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And good for you!!
Theres no doubt that route the best of both worlds!!!
Ive always been envious of those we know/meet who love what they do.
We tried... and worked hard to change our mindsets, to fit in to the norm and to simply keep going. Turns out maybe we just had the wrong jobs (but now prefer not having any).
We're doing the same...except maybe plotting/changing the course as we go along.
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08-05-2019, 08:00 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Jun 2019
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Originally Posted by athena53
Good for you but you haven't covered the one question I always have: what are you doing for health insurance?
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Just like everyone else, we pay (way too much) for it!
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Originally Posted by athena53
Clearly your previous job would have killed you at an early age; there were paths other than leaving the rat race completely.
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Im sure there were!
We didn't drive away thinking we were never coming back. The hope was to simply hit the "reset button" after a year or two and be able to go back to work harder/happier.
It was only after leaving that we realized so many opportunities were all around us that we had always missed (because we were too exhausted from work).
Rather than go back to what we knew, we simply decided to find creative solutions to money rather than seek out a salary.
It's clearly not a path for everyone, but I do think it's important for those who feel "trapped" like we did to know that other options/paths exist.
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RE at 35 (mostly accidentally and without a plan) and still figuring it all out after 12years of full time travel/adventure!
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08-05-2019, 08:07 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by ShokWaveRider
Smart move, that is what we did. I was trying to make out what your boat was, cat or mono? This was ours during the "Toilet Pumping" years.
Another of our Fav spots was the Saints and Pinney's Beach in Nevis.
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Nice! We LOVED Nevis. Sadly, our time there was cut short (we spent WAY TOO much time in the Exumas, Bahamas and by the time we left we had some serious ground to make up to get south of the zone before our insurance mandated).
Can't wait to go back and explore after hurricane season is over!
It's a 39' cat.
Not gonna win any raises... essentially a floating condo, but lucky for us we don't plan on entering any races and a floating condo fits perfectly... for now anyway!
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Enjoy the Journey!!
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08-05-2019, 08:29 AM
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#44
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SW Ohio
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Originally Posted by brydanger
If you look back, i've never made any judgements on your life, your family or your commitment to it (I would never question any of those things), nor have I ever claimed to know anything at all about your life.
Im simply suggesting that you not judge these family's choices as being less than yours. They are not less, nor more... they are simply different.
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Yes, you make a point of being nonjudgemental, respecting the choices of others, etc. And then we have (bold added):
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Originally Posted by brydanger
. . . . We talk with a lot of people who use kids as the excuse for why they aren't able to do something different or why they can't do what they want...
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Is it possible that what you are characterizing as an "excuse" is viewed by another person/couple as a very valid " reason." If someone is going to put on this cloak of nonjugementalism, respecting the choices of others as being equally valid, etc, then let's apply that across the board and grant that maybe these other people are just as capable of reasoned thought as we are. I'd also submit that a couple that actually has kids and are raising them may have a different perspective than a childless couple about the best environment for raising those particular kids.
You've repeatedly characterized your decision to adopt your present lifestyle as "running away." People run away from things they don't like, or that they fear. And you wrote:
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Originally Posted by brydanger
. . . We now believe that no matter what happens in the future we can and will find a way to continue the journey without my greatest fear coming true (having to beg for my job back).
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which reinforces the idea that fear is a primary motivation for your decisions. Maybe I've got it wrong, maybe you (both) are really running "toward" this journey/adventure thing. I hope so, because being afraid isn't a great way to go through life (IMO, in full respect for every choice anyone else could make, recognizing that I'm in no position to say one choice is better than another, etc, etc)
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08-05-2019, 08:30 AM
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#45
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: The Shire
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Chacun a son gout
Since this is the Early Retirement forum, I applaud OP for following its premise. Good for you for making it work.
Of course, I also recognize that I could no more do what he did than I could wrestle alligators. I have a much stronger need for security. No criticism intended; just different strokes for different folks.
For me, a big piece of the attraction of this forum is reading success stories from across the spectrum of RE ages, resources and activities. If everybody's story were the same as mine, I wouldn't need to read any of them.
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08-05-2019, 08:59 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: the prairies
Posts: 5,044
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Originally Posted by brydanger
"subject your family" to full time travel and adventure?
Sounds horrible... after my coffee this morning I'll snorkel over to the couple with two young kids living on the catamaran next door and ask the kids how miserable they are... it's hard to tell admidst all the laughing and giggling.
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Not everyone thinks travel is fun. And not everyone thinks water views are great. And not everyone wants to live on a small boat.
My GF's family has a cabin with a lake view. She likes it...to me it's just another building that requires regular maintenance. My friends came by with their 2 kids last week for the day. Neither one of the kids cared about the beach (they spent all of 5 minutes there) and both were bored and wanting to go home within an hour.
That being said, I hope the OP's early retirement works out for them. But, it's not a lifestyle I'm interested in pursuing.
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08-05-2019, 09:04 AM
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#47
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Florida's First Coast
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Originally Posted by Music Lover
Not everyone thinks travel is fun. And not everyone thinks water views are great. And not everyone wants to live on a small boat.
My GF's family has a cabin with a lake view. She likes it...to me it's just another building that requires regular maintenance. My friends came by with their 2 kids last week for the day. Neither one of the kids cared about the beach (they spent all of 5 minutes there) and both were bored and wanting to go home within an hour.
That being said, I hope the OP's early retirement works out for them. But, it's not a lifestyle I'm interested in pursuing.
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Then why bother even commenting? That is like stating you live a boring old life, or could be interpreted that way.
First Sentence Response - But a lot of people do.
Middle Sentence Response - I happen to agree with you there, but again some do.
The statement I bolded is more appropriate, accurate and would have been adequate.
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08-05-2019, 09:08 AM
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#48
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cholula
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moemg
To quote a famous line "Show us the money " . It is great to talk about all the adventure but how are you supporting this life style ?
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You are entitled to ask, but I don't think the OP owes anyone an explanation.
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08-05-2019, 09:10 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Florida's First Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moemg
To quote a famous line "Show us the money " . It is great to talk about all the adventure but how are you supporting this life style ?
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Why is this even relevant, whatever it is it is working for them and they are enjoying it.
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08-05-2019, 09:20 AM
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#50
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: the prairies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShokWaveRider
Then why bother even commenting? That is like stating you live a boring old life, or could be interpreted that way.
First Sentence Response - But a lot of people do.
Middle Sentence Response - I happen to agree with you there, but again some do.
The statement I bolded is more appropriate, accurate and would have been adequate.
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Sorry for "over replying"
By the way...my life isn't boring, although it might be for you. But it probably works both ways.
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08-05-2019, 09:23 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Millennials doing retirement, interesting to watch. Not an approach I would do, to each his own.
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08-05-2019, 09:30 AM
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Gone but not forgotten
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShokWaveRider
Why is this even relevant, whatever it is it is working for them and they are enjoying it.
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It is interesting to understand how they support this life style . Even Billy & Akaisha Kaderli talk about how they were able to retire at 35 with $500,000.
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08-05-2019, 09:30 AM
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#53
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Florida's First Coast
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I Never said it was, read the sentence again, see what I mean? Words can be interpreted differently by others.
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08-05-2019, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: North
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REWahoo
Matt? Matt Foley? Is that you?
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Chris Farley? Or was he playing the character Matt Foley?
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08-05-2019, 09:56 AM
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#55
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
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Location: Texas: No Country for Old Men
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Originally Posted by kgtest
Chris Farley? Or was he playing the character Matt Foley?
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Yes, and yes.
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08-05-2019, 09:59 AM
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#56
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Recycles dryer sheets
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Originally Posted by samclem
Is it possible that what you are characterizing as an "excuse" is viewed by another person/couple as a very valid "reason." If someone is going to put on this cloak of nonjugementalism, respecting the choices of others as being equally valid, etc, then let's apply that across the board and grant that maybe these other people are just as capable of reasoned thought as we are.
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Wow.
I certainly apologize that this is how these words read to you, but I sure you im hiding under no "cloak of nonjudgement".
When I talk about people who use excuses, i'm not talking about everyone with kids (that would obviously be ridiculous). I was talking in that context about people who say "I can't travel because I have kids".
This is not a "reason" as many many others are actively doing so, which makes it a "choice".
To admit that many of the "reasons" we give ourselves are actually "excuses" is very empowering as it means those things are simply choices we made, which also mean we get to make different ones IF we choose.
"I cant" is VERY rarely a "reason" in my experience (that's not a blanket statement to all...thats in my experience with the people i've talked with and tried to help find the courage to make this kind of jump).
In no way have I tried to make this thread or any comment in it an "all or nothing" and have continued to state that it's here for those who it might help... not for those don't find any value (presumably, you included).
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Originally Posted by samclem
I'd also submit that a couple that actually has kids and are raising them may have a different perspective than a childless couple about the best environment for raising those particular kids.
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And I would agree with you 1000%.
IF you go back and actually read the context in those posts you'll see never once I suggested that the other poster take his/her kids and travel.
That poster suggest that people traveling with kids should NOT be for various reasons and I suggested that he/she should be able to make the decision what is best for their children.
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Originally Posted by samclem
You've repeatedly characterized your decision to adopt your present lifestyle as "running away." People run away from things they don't like, or that they fear. And you wrote:
which reinforces the idea that fear is a primary motivation for your decisions. Maybe I've got it wrong, maybe you (both) are really running "toward" this journey/adventure thing. I hope so, because being afraid isn't a great way to go through life
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Thanks for therapy...but very much not needed.
I could write a book on our journey, but trying to write a (hopefully helpful) synopsis of it here that is helpful is very difficult. You are merging 7years of life into a single instance.
When we originally left 7 years ago, yes... I was running away (as fast as I could) from something I very much feared - being stuck and not making a change (due to fear of the unknown) in my life that I would regret later.
Now I have dealt with those demons, have recreated myself several times over and now that things seem to be on a good track for us and I get to make decisions for happiness rather than money - I have mostly dedicated myself to trying to help others who feel trapped or stuck the same way that I did.
I was lucky... I had a hippy wife who believes that nothing is more important than happiness and convinced me to go find it with her. Not everyone has that positive influence in their lives and I will continue to share my story (here and anywhere else) to help those who need to hear there is actually another "choice".
Why that seems to have had such a profound negative impact on you and others I have no idea.
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08-05-2019, 10:04 AM
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#57
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Congrats! you're living my dream. If only....I like most people and especially my wife felt that we had to be grounded by work, family, house, etc. But I've always dreamed of buying a boat and leaving everything behind to sail off into the sunset. We did that for 2 years in our motorhome a few years ago, but family brought us back to a house.
We're retired and living our dream in our motorhome spending the summer in Alaska while the small house near family is closed up. However medical issues have kept me from doing some of the things I really want to do on this trip, if only....
I still have a dream of buying a boat to spend time on, possibly run over to Florida, up the TennTom to the lakes, maybe over to the Bahamas. If only....
Do you have a blog? I would love to read about some of your adventures, PM it to me if you'd like. And continue enjoying your life and I'll ride along in my dreams!
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08-05-2019, 10:08 AM
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"profound negative impact"..uh, you have no impact on me negative or otherwise. What is an excuse vs a reason? How is a reason an excuse? Depends on your point of view, doesn't it?
All points of view are welcome here, but they will be roundly and thoroughly debated.. You can take that to the bank!
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08-05-2019, 10:09 AM
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#59
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Originally Posted by jim584672
Millennials doing retirement, interesting to watch. Not an approach I would do, to each his own.
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Afraid we missed the millennial generation by 5-8 years.
Funny though, it is something we hear often.
The millennials look at us and think we live under way too much structure and shouldn't be paying taxes or insurance to really be free.
The last generation (and often our own) look at us as though it's some kind of crazy idea to actually enjoy your life in your younger years rather than waiting for a later that might never come.
All we've done is make a decision that the big house and acreage isn't what we're after. The fancy car and status symbols don't matter to us, which means we can live on FAR less (and means we can work for less years).
Being truly. blissfully happy daily is what we've chosen to go after... and that doesn't seem so crazy to me.
My grandparents always said "don't wait until you're old to go enjoy yourself and live your life fully". I just cant figure out why I went right back to work the next day and it took me so long to try and listen.
As you say, to each his own.
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RE at 35 (mostly accidentally and without a plan) and still figuring it all out after 12years of full time travel/adventure!
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08-05-2019, 10:17 AM
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#60
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2019
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Originally Posted by folivier
Congrats! you're living my dream. If only....I like most people and especially my wife felt that we had to be grounded by work, family, house, etc. But I've always dreamed of buying a boat and leaving everything behind to sail off into the sunset. We did that for 2 years in our motorhome a few years ago, but family brought us back to a house.
We're retired and living our dream in our motorhome spending the summer in Alaska while the small house near family is closed up. However medical issues have kept me from doing some of the things I really want to do on this trip, if only....
I still have a dream of buying a boat to spend time on, possibly run over to Florida, up the TennTom to the lakes, maybe over to the Bahamas. If only....
Do you have a blog? I would love to read about some of your adventures, PM it to me if you'd like. And continue enjoying your life and I'll ride along in my dreams!
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Thanks for the positive response (they seem few and far between)
IF ONLY...
is exactly what has made us focus on this now.
We've actually tried to listen to others that say/have said the same and tried to go after those dreams now while we know we can. We also feel the pull for family and friends and it has been a constant battle. Trying to friend the balance between the things that make you happy is more difficult than it would seem.
For us it came down to a few key events in life (and , im sure, several small ones).
- Without being told of my high blood pressure (and knowing my history with stress) I would have never been able to pull the trigger
- Without traveling for a few years in Mexico and Central America we wouldn't have come to the realization that the ONLY other people we met our age who were traveling and exploring their dreams had just lost someone or been diagnosed.
- Without running into an old salty sailor on a road trip to Alaska last year and hearing how sad he was to have to stop sailing and move into a van/RV (because his body couldn't take it anymore) we would have never move sailing from a lifelong dream to putting an offer on a boat 3 days after that conversation.
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