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Old 12-03-2009, 01:06 PM   #161
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I have no qualms at all about expressing my views to our elected representatives. That's the way our society works"
I commend you for expressing your views to our elected representatives. I do as well. However, I am no longer convinced that "that's the way our society works". Quite the contray I am afraid.

Elected officials, from my vantage point, do not seem to be overly concerned with average voters and their opinions. Big dollar donations along with gerry-rigged voting districts has made nearly all, if not all, national politicians beholden to a select group of folks and their money.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:25 PM   #162
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Your point is another area with basically the same theme I've been ranting about. (....wonder why you've not been stoned yet?)
The "system" USED to work, was designed to work but sure as hell no longer works.
BUT....the Sheeple ( oops, there's that word again) have to be herded along as believers so the Boy's Club in Washington can continue with their game.
It's so damned obvious. Yet the US public seems content to have lobbyists, or professional bibers, as the main influence on the "duely elected officials"
What a joke. Who runs America. Not the public, not by a long shot.
Corporations with $$$$$$$$$$$$ run America. Banks mainly.
Yet another reason to vote with my feet and my retirement accounts & leave the ship like the rat some of you portray me as
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:46 PM   #163
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Your point is another area with basically the same theme I've been ranting about. (....wonder why you've not been stoned yet?)
The "system" USED to work, was designed to work but sure as hell no longer works.
BUT....the Sheeple ( oops, there's that word again) have to be herded along as believers so the Boy's Club in Washington can continue with their game.
It's so damned obvious. Yet the US public seems content to have lobbyists, or professional bibers, as the main influence on the "duely elected officials"
What a joke. Who runs America. Not the public, not by a long shot.
Corporations with $$$$$$$$$$$$ run America. Banks mainly.
Yet another reason to vote with my feet and my retirement accounts & leave the ship like the rat some of you portray me as

Still haven't heard where you plan to run to - is it a big secret or do you actually have a retirement haven in mind that we should investigate? Did I miss your answer?
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:53 PM   #164
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I wonder where our retirement nest eggs would be had the government not bailed out Wall Street last year.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:08 PM   #165
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I wonder where our retirement nest eggs would be had the government not bailed out Wall Street last year.
Be careful confusing "motion" with "progress".
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:41 PM   #166
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Be careful confusing "motion" with "progress".
.....and I wonder if the government will bail out Wall Street next time..
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Your point is another area with basically the same theme I've been ranting about. (....wonder why you've not been stoned yet?)
Possibly because LARS presents his views respectfully and politely, so that even if one doesn't agree with them they are worthy of consideration and reply. As opposed to sounding like a 12 year old whining about how unfair it is that their brother got the bigger twinkie.

And for all you know, maybe he IS stoned.
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Yet another reason to vote with my feet and my retirement accounts & leave the ship like the rat some of you portray me as
As one airline puts it:
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I suppose my reading comprehension is questionable, but are you in the USA or in Europe?
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Your point is another area with basically the same theme I've been ranting about. (....wonder why you've not been stoned yet?)
The "system" USED to work, was designed to work but sure as hell no longer works.
BUT....the Sheeple ( oops, there's that word again) have to be herded along as believers so the Boy's Club in Washington can continue with their game.
It's so damned obvious. Yet the US public seems content to have lobbyists, or professional bibers, as the main influence on the "duely elected officials"
What a joke. Who runs America. Not the public, not by a long shot.
Corporations with $$$$$$$$$$$$ run America. Banks mainly.
Yet another reason to vote with my feet and my retirement accounts & leave the ship like the rat some of you portray me as
I think this is from Winston Churchill "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others." When someone comes up with a better form of representative democracy than the one we have (including all the warts, crooks, etc.), I would sure like to hear about it. To be blunt brogan, you sound a lot like one of those militia guys who believe that our democracy is not worth saving. I'm sure I'm not the first to say this, but, as you depart our shores, don't let the door hit you in the butt. And, just out of mundance curiosity, what have YOU ever done to make things better in this country - run for office, served in the military, done any kind of pubic service, actually voted?? Sounds a lot to me like you've taken advantage of everything you could, including accumulating wealth, but have never given a damn thing back. It may be corny, but I still believe in what JFK said "Ask not what your contry can do for you, but what you can do for your country." Sounds like the best thing you can do for us and yourself is to leave.

And yes, I am an unashamed patriot, and I did defend my country, and did devote most of my life to military and public service - and my country has been very good to me in return.
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