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Old 05-21-2013, 08:11 PM   #1
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17" laptop recommendations

Dell 15" just died yesterday morning....actually died during the night peacefully since it wouldn't start yesterday.....been on it's last legs for a month or more. Was thinking about going back to a desktop....but I do like dragging it out to sit on my lap on the couch. Might be switching out of my Comcast in June anyway and going back to Hulu+ and/or Netflix.....bigger screen will work better for watching. Might play some games as well....although not much into that anymore. Touch screen doesn't sound like anything I would really use on a laptop......even though it is the "in" thing.
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:13 PM   #2
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I bought a 17" laptop from xoticpc.com. They sell Sager laptops (which are made by Clevo). I have been very happy with mine.

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Old 05-21-2013, 09:04 PM   #3
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I have a 17" Dell Inspiron laptop that I bought in July, 2011. It has an i7 processor, Windows 7, an upgraded video card, and all the bells and whistles that had any appeal to me. Very nice, although not cheap. Maybe this post should be in the "guilty pleasures" thread.

When my desktop computer dies, I don't plan to buy another. I can do anything on this laptop that I can do on my desktop.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:20 PM   #4
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I bought a smaller screen Dell laptop last week. I'm pretty easy to please, but I find Windows 8 to be the worst OS I've ever encountered (but I skipped Vista so am not familiar with that). Worse, my elegant little b/w laser printer does not work with it as HP has yet to provide a driver for it and I'm not techie enough to use a work around. Grrrr. But other than that I love the new laptop....
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:29 PM   #5
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I bought a smaller screen Dell laptop last week. I'm pretty easy to please, but I find Windows 8 to be the worst OS I've ever encountered
The most important thing I've learned about Windows 8 is to go download a program that will create a start menu for you. Once you do that you can just set it to work from the desktop and then you have a start menu with all your programs and it is pretty much like Windows 7. I am currently using a little free program called Classic Shell which makes Windows 8 ever so much nicer.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:40 PM   #6
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I purchased a 15" Dell XPS last year with their best screen which is superb. I had a TV tuner card installed, purchased a moju leaf indoor antenna (great simple indoor antenna) and have a TV, with excellent HD picture almost anywhere I go with it. I also have large TV's on wall, but I like the flexibility of having a TO GO tv with me. Of course, it cost me around $1,350 for my set up, but I feel it is worth it. Having a really good screen is a very important feature if you are planning on watching any amount of video on your laptop, so I would make that a priority.

You also want to have Windows 7 installed on it, because you get Media Center with it, which will allow you to record all your favorite TV shows on your laptop, so if you need entertainment when you travel, or if your internet goes out, or you have to visit your in laws, or just watch something only you like, it makes for a nice TV, with built in recorder (DVR)

You can buy Media Center for Windows 8 for about $100 (unless you have Professional, which I think includes it) But I have not heard good things about Windows 8, so you might want to pick up a copy of Windows 7, while you still can.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:52 PM   #7
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Just ordered a 17" Inspiron laptop from Dell since the old laptop is starting to get a bit buggy. I have read awful things about Windows 8 so I made sure that the new laptop has Win 7 :-)
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Arrrrgggg. When did Dell stop letting you make little adjustments to an order? Now you are kind of stuck on whatever they want to sell you. You used to be able to change all kinds of things on the computer. Are all the other companies doing this as well?

Kind of tempted on a Toshiba that Costco has online for a little over $1100.
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Arrrrgggg. When did Dell stop letting you make little adjustments to an order? Now you are kind of stuck on whatever they want to sell you. You used to be able to change all kinds of things on the computer. Are all the other companies doing this as well?
Most of the "big" companies don't allow the customization they used to allow. That is why I (who used to buy Dell a lot) bought from xoticpc.com because I could customize just about everything on it.
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I have had very good experience with Lenovo ThinkPads. They are rugged and hold up well compared to other laptops we have had (Dell, Asus). Only laptop I will buy now. I believe that the Lenovo site allows some customization but not as much as they did in the past and much of the customizations are just pitches for more expensive high-margin bells and whistles.
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I have a Dell 17.3" laptop and love having the extra screen space. I also connect it to a 24" TV because of how I use it all day. Works perfectly!
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I have 2 Sony VIAO's and have really liked them. No problems.
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I bought a smaller screen Dell laptop last week. I'm pretty easy to please, but I find Windows 8 to be the worst OS I've ever encountered (but I skipped Vista so am not familiar with that).
MS has finally admitted Win 8 is flop. There is a major upgrade coming later this summer probably a service pack that is supposed to return the normal user interface.

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17" laptops are getting harder to find and more expensive. But some deals can be found. Also check if they come with a downgrade option, win 8 to win 7, done that for quite few.
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MS has finally admitted Win 8 is flop. There is a major upgrade coming later this summer probably a service pack that is supposed to return the normal user interface.

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Thanks, Rb (and Katsmeow above). I will be the first in line for the service pack. I just stay at the desktop "tile" on Windows 8 and ignore the rest of the smart-phone/tablet like opening screen. Such irony in shells being available to run an OS more effectively--what's next, booting up with a couple of floppies?
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Thanks, Rb (and Katsmeow above). what's next, booting up with a couple of floppies?
Actually I still boot many of my diagnostic tools on a DOS/linux boot floppy. Many things that break in windows are easier repaired that way.
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There are shell replacements that return the start menu feature.
I purchased the laptop I'm typing on now ~ 3 years ago. Rather than a replacement shell, I just replaced all of Windows:

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easily customized to support the way I work (multiple work-spaces, hierarchical 'start' menus for apps, etc).

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I have 2 Sony VIAO's and have really liked them. No problems.

Three years ago I decided to upgrade from the ten year old Dell laptops that I was using. I bought two Sony Vaio laptops with the latest bells and whistles. They have had a lot of use, sometimes 24/7, and there have been no problems with good performance.
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I have purchased three laptops for my family from HP and have been very happy with their service. I personally would not buy a laptop. For me a better model has been to buy a workstation, cheaper then laptop, with the basics and use that for any real content creation. Much more reliable then a laptop and can be used with your cable modem/printer and wireless router. This is our house hold unit that everyone uses for basic service.

I spend most of my time, 99%, on my Kindle Fire. My family has IPAD's and Kindles and they spend almost all their time on them as well on them instead of the laptop's etc. Good part of the tablet' is that they are very reliable, no moving parts, closed OS(like cell phones), so they are pretty secure and virus free and easy to use. Extended warranties, I got two extra years on my Fire for $25, are cheap and basically a swap!

It really depends on your need but I have found the above model to be reliable/cost effective and I spend all my time with the device productively.

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MS has finally admitted Win 8 is flop. There is a major upgrade coming later this summer probably a service pack that is supposed to return the normal user interface.
I kinda liked the live tile version of Win8 and found it reasonably intuitive, but there's no doubt they had a minor user revolt on their hands. The fact that Win8 is markedly different, shouldn't in itself be a fault. Win8 does make sense if you want an OS that looks/acts much the same on PCs, tablets and phones.

With all the growth rapidly moving to mobile, Win8 seemed like a good direction to move. The old Win desktop UI clearly makes no sense at all on a phone. And with how readily users adapted to the iPhone, iPad UI, you'd think Win users could have just as easily adapted.

It appears the "revolt" was more simple resistance to change among the installed base, which is sad, but no question MS has had their heads handed to them with Win8. YMMV
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....It appears the "revolt" was more simple resistance to change among the installed base, which is sad, but no question MS has had their heads handed to them with Win8. YMMV
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