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Old 06-11-2009, 12:01 PM   #21
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Dumb lady........she got what she deserved. Of course, she will sue. I think the dash cam from the police will show the officer acted in the correct fashion.

I always cooperate with law enforcement in my dealings with them. They have guns, tasers, pepper spray, shotguns, and more training than me........
It occurred to me that the deputy KNEW he was being recorded, while she might not have even thought about that in her anger at being pulled over.
This will send a strong message to her type...Smile, you're not on candid camera, this is real live video and it is real evidence.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:06 PM   #22
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What is with these cops?
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This guy should be ashamed of himself.
jambo - did you and I watch the same video?

I cringe every time I see a cop having to stand outside a stopped car on a busy road. I am afraid he will get hurt in the line of duty. He was right to get her and him off to the side. She resisted.

She started out with an attitude - " you gonna put a 72 YO woman in jail?". And it went downhill from there. I didn't know that the law states that at 72, it is OK to do 60 in a 45.

I'd stop at putting her in jail though. I'd pity her cellmate.

But I'd like to see the book thrown at her, resisting arrest, etc. Might be a lesson for the next jerk that thinks they are above the law, and that a cop has no right to protect themselves during a traffic stop.

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jambo - did you and I watch the same video?

I cringe every time I see a cop having to stand outside a stopped car on a busy road. I am afraid he will get hurt in the line of duty. He was right to get her and him off to the side. She resisted.

She started out with an attitude - " you gonna put a 72 YO woman in jail?". And it went downhill from there. I didn't know that the law states that at 72, it is OK to do 60 in a 45.

I'd stop at putting her in jail though. I'd pity her cellmate.

But I'd like to see the book thrown at her, resisting arrest, etc. Might be a lesson for the next jerk that thinks they are above the law, and that a cop has no right to protect themselves during a traffic stop.

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Speeding tickets are not worth getting tasered over. Go to traffic court, pleade your case, get a lower fine or less points and move on........
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Speeding tickets are not worth getting tasered over. Go to traffic court, pleade your case, get a lower fine or less points and move on........
Plus, it may not have mattered going 15 over in an active construction zone, but in more borderline cases your attitude can also be the difference between a ticket and a warning.

You'll get a lot more warnings with "yes, sir" and "no, sir" than by doing what she did.
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I canŽt prove it, but my impression is that no well-mannered, polite and reasonable person is mistreated by the police.
If your Law enforcement officials donŽt let the media see the above youŽll never dump the very bad press you have arond here. IŽve always been in doubt, pro cops.
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I canŽt prove it, but my impression is that no well-mannered, polite and reasonable person is mistreated by the police.
If your Law enforcement officials donŽt let the media see the above youŽll never dump the very bad press you have arond here. IŽve always been in doubt, pro cops.
There are bad cops no doubt. However, in my life all my dealings with law enforcement have been positive.

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The cop could have taken this attitude
The rest of the story: It's Walter Brennan in that car!

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She surely didn't sustain any injury to her lying filthy mouth and so what's the beef. She is trash.
I'm not condemning the officer in the video, but your statements
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Well, she (literally) asked for it! No sympathy from me...
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The cop could have taken this attitude...
That motorist audio had to be dubbed in. There is no body language reaction at all from the officer except for the clipboard grab and littering segment. In the face of all that verbal abuse and swearing, it just doesn't fit. Whatever he was saying, the trooper had the patience of a saint.
I think the motorist was indeed agitated, but not anywhere near the level on the audio track I heard.

I got a major belly laugh when the amount of the fine (2:13 elapsed time) was told to the driver.
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I think the fact that she had children and those children had children is not pertinent to the issue. I wonder why the media emphasized that? Would their opinion of her actions and foul mouth been different if she had chosen to be child-free?

Also, the fact that she lied in regard to her behavior during the arrest when interviewed prior to the tapes being released tells a lot about her character, her mental health status and her outlook on life. This was probably an experience she would have benefitted from decades ago.

For the safety of the public she should not be allowed to drive again. Of course, since she'll have more money than Oprah by the time the law suites are settled, she'll be able to afford a chauffer anyway.........
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IMHO the woman was uncooperative and defiant and the policeman used excessive force.

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Good thing he had the option of a tazer or he would have thought she was such a threat to his safety he would have had to shoot her.
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Good thing he had the option of a tazer or he would have thought she was such a threat to his safety he would have had to shoot her.
What would you have thought if it were a 22-year-old male acting exactly as this woman did?
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What would you have thought if it were a 22-year-old male acting exactly as this woman did?
It wasn't a 22 year old male, it was a 72 year old defiant and belligerent woman.
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It wasn't a 22 year old male, it was a 72 year old defiant and belligerent woman.
But the point is: Does someone deserve "kindler, gentler" treatment because they are old and female instead of young and male, regardless of how much an ass they are making of themselves?
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But the point is: Does someone deserve "kindler, gentler" treatment because they are old and female instead of young and male, regardless of how much an ass they are making of themselves?
Is the use of force and physical aggression justified because of a bad attitude or in response to a physical threat or aggression toward the policeman? I'm not siding with either - her attitude was unacceptable and his response was excessive.
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I've been pretty busy today, so at this point, I don't think I would want to tangle with either one of them...
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Taser isn't so bad. He could have used his nightstick.
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Is the use of force and physical aggression justified because of a bad attitude or in response to a physical threat or aggression toward the policeman? I'm not siding with either - her attitude was unacceptable and his response was excessive.
You did see the physical threat and aggression, right? The cop had not frisked her, so he had no way to know whether she had a knife or gun on her (it's Texas after all - I'm sure no offense will be taken!). The officer is allowed to use reasonable force necessary to effect the arrest. Reasonable force seems to have been applied here.
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