8 troops killed in Iraq in the past 24 hours.

newguy88 · 03-11-2008, 05:16 AM

Still worth it

Obama makes more sense every day time to leave.

HFWR · 03-11-2008, 10:53 AM

Are you filled with grief and compassion for the deceased and their families, or is this just another excuse for a ~~run-on sentence~~ rant?

Jeez...

bbbamI · 03-11-2008, 11:54 AM

Where's my crystal ball?

jambo101 · 03-11-2008, 03:13 PM

Sounds like no one talks about this topic,Is that because its been discussed a lot in the past or is it a Dem/ Rep thing.

Marquette · 03-11-2008, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Sounds like no one talks about this topic,Is that because its been discussed a lot in the past or is it a Dem/ Rep thing.

Soldiers dying in a battlefield is tragic. No parent should have to bury their kid, especially if it's preventable.

On the same token, how many mother's sons were killed in car crashes, work accidents, etc yesterday?

What's left to say? The war was wrong or not, staying there is a mistake or not, the next president will get us out or not. Further discussion beyond that is just varying degrees of vitrol, ad hominen attacks, strawmen and stumping.

HFWR · 03-11-2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

Sounds like no one talks about this topic,Is that because its been discussed a lot in the past or is it a Dem/ Rep thing.

I object to a post that uses dead soldiers to say "See, I told you so..."

Oddly enough, I share many of the concerns that New Guy's posts highlight.

I'm now slithering back to my hole in the ground...

newguy88 · 03-11-2008, 04:44 PM

Fallon resigns as Mideast military chief - Yahoo! News

So what to make of this?

Humm Iran might be in play again before Bush leaves office.

clifp · 03-11-2008, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marquette

Soldiers dying in a battlefield is tragic. No parent should have to bury their kid, especially if it's preventable.

On the same token, how many mother's sons were killed in car crashes, work accidents, etc yesterday?

What's left to say? The war was wrong or not, staying there is a mistake or not, the next president will get us out or not. Further discussion beyond that is just varying degrees of vitrol, ad hominen attacks, strawmen and stumping.

This is excellent advice, I'll try and remember it.

Buckeye · 03-11-2008, 06:58 PM

No, it's not worth it today and it was not worth it yesterday. DH (Vietnam Vet) and I (served stateside during Desert Storm) hoped this bad dream would not become real when this war was being discussed but unfortunately it has. DH experienced the fact that war just doesn't work well when the good guys and the bad guys (and gals today) all look alike and there's no front.

Texarkandy · 03-11-2008, 09:35 PM

Can't personally vouch for the statistics - but I did find this, which might give one pause for thought:

"Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289"

"Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001."

jambo101 · 03-12-2008, 02:07 AM

If we are talking about needless deaths an average of 45,000 Americans die every year in car crashes a lot of them probably avoidable but not much media space is being given to the carnage on our roads.

newguy88 · 03-12-2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

If we are talking about needless deaths an average of 45,000 Americans die every year in car crashes a lot of them probably avoidable but not much media space is being given to the carnage on our roads.

No that is not the point. Why should a great american kid join the american military only to be sent to a place that is not important to our survival as a nation. If you really believe a two bit dictator that saddam was was a threat to our way of life you have been drinking the koolaid way to long!

Rustic23 · 03-12-2008, 05:47 PM

This subject has been cussed, discussed, review, you name it. I doubt it has changed a single mind of any who post here. However, IMHO, anyone that would use the death of 8 Americans just to troll a bulletin board is lower than pond scum!

Marquette · 03-12-2008, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy888

only to be sent to a place that is not important to our survival as a nation.

You've got to be kidding me.... there's oil in them there hills you know.

Next stop, Iran.

jambo101 · 03-12-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy888

No that is not the point. Why should a great american kid join the american military only to be sent to a place that is not important to our survival as a nation. If you really believe a two bit dictator that saddam was was a threat to our way of life you have been drinking the koolaid way to long!

I thought that war was a losing proposition as soon as i heard the rumors that GWB was planning an invasion.We had Saddam covered and he wasn't a threat to any one but his own people.Now we have lost some good people for an objective i still cant understand.
By the way American is spelled with a capital A

macdaddy · 03-12-2008, 08:12 PM

AnySoldier.com

Check them out...it's a simple way you can support troops directly. I've met the fellow who runs it and it's a Class A operation.

newguy88 · 03-13-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustic23

This subject has been cussed, discussed, review, you name it. I doubt it has changed a single mind of any who post here. However, IMHO, anyone that would use the death of 8 Americans just to troll a bulletin board is lower than pond scum!

Not trolling my friend. Oh is the america?? oops America ,Freedom? Ability to say what you feel? I have not gone over any lines on this forum. Oh there is an ignore button. Use it.

Notmuchlonger · 03-13-2008, 01:10 AM

But its like a train wreck. You know its going to be bad but you just have to look.

cantlogin · 03-13-2008, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo101

... By the way American is spelled with a capital A

Punctuation and grammar are irrelevant to some of our educators.

newguy88 · 03-13-2008, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantlogin

Punctuation and grammar are irrelevant to some of our educators.

There you go again....

Oh by the way, I am retired. I IS Off The Clock!

03-11-2008, 05:16 AM	#1
newguy88 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,119	8 troops killed in Iraq in the past 24 hours. Still worth it Obama makes more sense every day time to leave.

03-11-2008, 10:53 AM	#2
HFWR Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 5,438	Are you filled with grief and compassion for the deceased and their families, or is this just another excuse for a ~~run-on sentence~~ rant? Jeez... __________________ Have Fun When Retired Never mind the furthermore, the plea is self defense...

03-11-2008, 11:54 AM	#3
bbbamI Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,818	Where's my crystal ball? __________________ Enjoy life.

03-11-2008, 03:13 PM	#4
jambo101 Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 572	Sounds like no one talks about this topic,Is that because its been discussed a lot in the past or is it a Dem/ Rep thing. __________________ "Second star to the right and straight on till morning"

03-11-2008, 09:35 PM	#10
Texarkandy Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,048	Can't personally vouch for the statistics - but I did find this, which might give one pause for thought: "Total U.S. troop deaths in Iraq as of last week were reported at 2,863. Total U.S. troop deaths in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan during the five years of the Afghan campaign are currently at 289" "Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001." __________________

03-11-2008, 04:44 PM	#7
newguy88 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,119	Fallon resigns as Mideast military chief - Yahoo! News So what to make of this? Humm Iran might be in play again before Bush leaves office.

03-11-2008, 06:58 PM	#9
Buckeye Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 457	No, it's not worth it today and it was not worth it yesterday. DH (Vietnam Vet) and I (served stateside during Desert Storm) hoped this bad dream would not become real when this war was being discussed but unfortunately it has. DH experienced the fact that war just doesn't work well when the good guys and the bad guys (and gals today) all look alike and there's no front.

03-12-2008, 02:07 AM	#11
jambo101 Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 572	If we are talking about needless deaths an average of 45,000 Americans die every year in car crashes a lot of them probably avoidable but not much media space is being given to the carnage on our roads. __________________ "Second star to the right and straight on till morning"

03-12-2008, 05:47 PM	#13
Rustic23 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lake Livingston, Tx Posts: 1,030	This subject has been cussed, discussed, review, you name it. I doubt it has changed a single mind of any who post here. However, IMHO, anyone that would use the death of 8 Americans just to troll a bulletin board is lower than pond scum!

03-12-2008, 08:12 PM	#16
macdaddy Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 403	AnySoldier.com Check them out...it's a simple way you can support troops directly. I've met the fellow who runs it and it's a Class A operation.

03-13-2008, 01:10 AM	#18
Notmuchlonger Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,013	But its like a train wreck. You know its going to be bad but you just have to look. __________________ Call the troops out in a hurry. This is what we've waited for. This is it boys, this is war.

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