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Old 09-10-2011, 08:39 PM   #21
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May we never forget............fatigue or not.
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:43 PM   #22
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I was in NYC that day, about 3 miles north of the towers. It was a truly surreal - lots of confusion and fear about what the heck was going on - I guess that is what terrorism is.

I was amazed that the towers collapsed. I recall hearing that about 50,000 people worked in the twin towers and thought that the casualties would be in the tens of thousands. Our firm lost 5 people that day (on the planes).

I recall how in the days immediately after the tragedy how patriotic and helpful people were. I wish we could somehow capture that spirit again.

I remember walking to work through Times Square on the morning of Sept 12 and how truly empty Times Square was compared to the normal hustle and bustle of the area. Surreal.

God Bless America.
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I see no need to "move on". That is just a trendy phrase. Did the Russians move on from Borodino, or the siege of Petrograd?

Remembering these things in one's bones is what makes a Nation, as opposed to a conglomeration of consumers. Admittedly, USA is closer to loosely agglomerated bunch of consumers, but that is more the pity.

One needs to forgive, to get on with the compromises required by the business of the world. But forget? Never.

Newsweek Magazine has a photo display of all the Al Quaeda that we have killed in this 10 years. It's a pretty impressive bag.

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I can't watch any of the coverage it's still to raw. I don't need to be reminded of who and what did this. I won't forget or forgive.
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I remember after the 1993 bombings of the World Trade Center, car bombs, I think, there was a "news" show that had some experts on discussing what it would take to bring down the towers. They discussed the buildings' design criteria of a plane crashing into the towers and discussed that a larger plane would be needed to be full of fuel to bring them down, maybe.

I remembered that when the towers were going down and "knew" that the terrorists watched the same news show years earlier when they were doing their planning.

Fast forward to just after the Japanese earthquake. At w*rk, one of our team's tasks was to investigate earthquake vulnerability of NYC buildings and monuments. It is amazing how much technical information is available on the internet that could be used maliciously.
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There is a good article in today's NYT on Flight 93 (Shanksville) and a recent memorial vigil by United Airlines staffers. The article has a link to a brief biography of each of the 40 members of the crew and passengers which made each one come alive to me and quite overwhelmed me.

I need to get up to Shanksville before the snow flies. It is less than an hour's drive from where I live. I will never forget.
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It is the only day of the year that I will not forget to put our flag out.
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No one who experienced 9/11/01 could forget or forgive, but all the coverage is giving me fatigue too, I refuse to watch any more today.

I wonder about the motivation for the memorials too. They've engraved the names of the almost 3000 people who died that day at a memorial at ground zero - and they are spending billions at the site. The losses are very sad, but are those 3000 more important than all the thousands of others who are senselessly murdered each day all over the USA? I'd say every life lost is of equal significance...shouldn't we remember all the others who will never be memorialized? Again, I am not minimizing the losses of 9/11...
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:29 AM   #31
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I wonder about the motivation for the memorials too. They've engraved the names of the almost 3000 people who died that day at a memorial at ground zero - and they are spending billions at the site.
From a very personal prospective, I see any memorial (in my case, "the wall", as a Viet vet) in a very different manner...

Today, I wept - not only those on the current memorial, but for those that grace past memorials ...

Regardless of the specific situation, it's an ongoing reminder that we should not forget, and how that moment in time affected us, as Americans.

Lest we forget...

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I put our flag out today. It's a small way to show solidarity with our country and it's people (and other creatures large + small). Life is precious.
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Bruce. The Rising. His reaction to 9/11. Love my Jersey dude.

Can't see nothin' in front of me
Can't see nothin' coming up behind
I make my way through this darkness
I can't feel nothing but this chain that binds me
Lost track of how far I've gone
How far I've gone, how high I've climbed
On my back's a sixty pound stone
On my shoulder a half mile of line

Come on up for the rising
Come on up, lay your hands in mine
Come on up for the rising
Come on up for the rising tonight

Left the house this morning
Bells ringing filled the air
Wearin' the cross of my calling
On wheels of fire I come rollin' down here

Come on up for the rising
Come on up, lay your hands in mine
Come on up for the rising
Come on up for the rising tonight

La,la, la,la,la,la, la,la,la

There's spirits above and behind me
Faces gone black, eyes burnin' bright
May their precious blood bind me
Lord, as I stand before your fiery light

La,la, la,la,la,la, la,la,la

I see you Mary in the garden
In the garden of a thousand sighs
There's holy pictures of our children
Dancin' in a sky filled with light
May I feel your arms around me
May I feel your blood mix with mine
A dream of life comes to me
Like a catfish dancin' on the end of my line

Sky of blackness and sorrow ( a dream of life)
Sky of love, sky of tears (a dream of life)
Sky of glory and sadness ( a dream of life)
Sky of mercy, sky of fear ( a dream of life)
Sky of memory and shadow ( a dream of life)
Your burnin' wind fills my arms tonight
Sky of longing and emptiness (a dream of life)
Sky of fullness, sky of blessed life

Come on up for the rising
Come on up, lay your hands in mine
Come on up for the rising
Come on up for the rising tonight

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From a very personal prospective, I see any memorial (in my case, "the wall", as a Viet vet) in a very different manner...

Today, I wept - not only those on the current memorial, but for those that grace past memorials ...

Regardless of the specific situation, it's an ongoing reminder that we should not forget, and how that moment in time affected us, as Americans.

Lest we forget...

Just my simple POV...
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I feel the same. People deal with tragedies and grieving in different ways, and those who want to walk away and forget can do that and I understand. But those of us who need a reminder of each who perished can have that, if only in a name on a wall. Let us never forget.
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There is a show on CBS showing real-time footage from a film crew that happened to be doing a documentary on a NY fire house. Incredible!
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Forgiving is, I think, an individual choice that has to do with how each person wants to view the world and the people in it. Forgetting - well, how can you do that?

Maybe a significant day in 2011 could be 9/12. After ten years of trauma, it makes sense to remember, but moving forward with a renewed sense of hope would be very good.
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I find that disturbing but understandable on some level. I just hope our security personnel do not share your condition. I would hope they would be made to view the "accidental" documentary by James Hanlon and Jules and Gedeon Naude on 9/11 each and every year. For those interested it will be shown on CBS Sunday at 8PM EDT.
This is the show that is on.
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I was afraid my post would be misunderstood, I withdraw the comment...
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I know someone whose daughter died on 9/11. The grief for him is never-ending. He has been to New York City 50 times since 9/11 looking for healing...........
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It will fade with time.... but major anniversaries will have this big presentation... probably a less at the 20 year one...


How much is on TV about the attackes on Dec 7th Not a lot... but to me that was an even worse day for the country...


I think the people who lost somebody will always want these memorials, and they should have them.

I just think we should also remember the thousands of kids who have given their lives in the two wars. To me, these are the heros as they are the ones who knowingly went into harms way and gave their lives for all of us....
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