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Old 10-01-2015, 07:33 PM   #41
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Beats me, but I done heared it with my own ears.
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By opening telephony to competition, we've exchanged reliability for options. Unfortunately none of those options are reliability.
I think this is true to an extent. The general public wants the sizzle, and boring, humdrum reliability puts the second fiddle on the back burner (just mixing metaphors for fun).

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Old 10-01-2015, 07:50 PM   #42
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I wish cell phones had the voice quality of a typical 40 year-old POTS. There's no technical reason it can't be done, but apparently superb voice quality is just not something that the market values highly. Even pricey and popular smartphones have all kinds of cool features, but are just "okay" as telephones. As long as the call is intelligible, that's good enough I guess.

DW bought an old dial phone for a few bucks at a garage sale and plugged it in to our wall jack. It works great, and I was enjoying the novel experience of "dialing" again--until I got to the phone tree menu at the place I was calling and had no way to "press one".
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I just traded an Iphone 4s for a 6s. Call quality so far, excellent. However, so far all I have done is call from one location. I have not tried going down the highway, talking to another person going down the highway. In fact come to think of it, usually when I had bad call quality with the 4s, it was talking to another phone with one of us moving. Tough to do with POTS.
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I wish cell phones had the voice quality of a typical 40 year-old POTS. There's no technical reason it can't be done, but apparently superb voice quality is just not something that the market values highly. Even pricey and popular smartphones have all kinds of cool features, but are just "okay" as telephones. As long as the call is intelligible, that's good enough I guess.

DW bought an old dial phone for a few bucks at a garage sale and plugged it in to our wall jack. It works great, and I was enjoying the novel experience of "dialing" again--until I got to the phone tree menu at the place I was calling and had no way to "press one".
Yea, it is funny.... my old boss hated the wait music on our phone system... complained all the time... we went with a company that beamed in music, he hated it... we went with a company that downloaded music to a box... he hated it... he always complained that it sounded bad on HIS cell phone... everybody I talked to in the hold music industry said that is the best they can do....

Now he just has beeps.... but during my time there we went through 3 companies....
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Fun fact (and I may be wrong as I got this from an old Telco friend of mine). I asked him how they knew (back in the day) how many extensions I had. He said they would monitor the ringing of phones in a given house and see how much current the riggers would be drawing.
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Yea, it is funny.... my old boss hated the wait music on our phone system... complained all the time... we went with a company that beamed in music, he hated it... we went with a company that downloaded music to a box... he hated it... he always complained that it sounded bad on HIS cell phone... everybody I talked to in the hold music industry said that is the best they can do....

Now he just has beeps.... but during my time there we went through 3 companies....
That's one of my pet peeves as well. The compression algorithms used for voice systems like this really mangle music. There should be an industry producing some sort of of simple tone music that doesn't sound so bad over a cell/VOIP phone.

I've actually heard side-by-side tests of some of these algorithms with voice and music in a presentation. To get the compression rates they want, the music suffers terribly.

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Fun fact (and I may be wrong as I got this from an old Telco friend of mine). I asked him how they knew (back in the day) how many extensions I had. He said they would monitor the ringing of phones in a given house and see how much current the riggers would be drawing.
No, that's correct. See my post #38. I think they still put REN's (Ringer Equivalency Numbers) on any phone designed to plug into a standard phone socket.

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Fun fact (and I may be wrong as I got this from an old Telco friend of mine). I asked him how they knew (back in the day) how many extensions I had. He said they would monitor the ringing of phones in a given house and see how much current the riggers would be drawing.
Yep, that's ringer equivalence number. Telephones used to have a REN specification. You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringer_equivalence_number
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So was this satire?

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