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Old 08-13-2015, 06:02 PM   #1
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A tale of woe

It went like this:
Finally decided to go w/ Windows 10
Everything worked fine until the error code: Sector to small to load.
Ok... Windows 7 still worked... Keep it.
Except W10 keeps trying... 15 minutes every boot up.
So... Delete the KB file that starts the download.
Doesn't work... reloads with Windows update.
So... refuse windows updates... ok? Yeah.
One more try... This time... a light color blue screen... Can't load C:Boot\UBC..
Dead computer... No Windows 7 restore disk.
Go to Computer #2 to get UBCD.ISO file. Fine all ok.
Then convert ISO to USB...USB boot to Linux.
That's where the real trouble starts.
Must Format new USB memory stick.
Now, computer #2 has a 2 terrabyte Seagate drive which is almost full.
The Seagate Drive is Drive E.
So I plug in the memory stick and format Drive F.
Complete format... Takes 20 minutes.
I then download the UBCD diagnostic file to the stick.
Or so I think>>>>>>
Turns out that when I plugged in the stick, it took over the E drive space
and... moved the Seagate drive to to letter F....
Not only did I format the drive, but by turning my 2T Seagate into a linux UBCD ISO boot drive, it destroys the Drive descriptor, and while my device manage sees the drive, there is no way to access the drive to use it for anything... unless... I plug it in to my last computer, which will render it useless.

So... net, net.... One HP desktop rendered useless... One Seagate 2T drive with the history of our lives... dead and gone... and left with one computer with Windows 10... (the most hated of all)...

Where is the justice? DW suggested I call Microsoft... I think she wants me out of the way.

Am going back to the local library, for the first time in ten years.
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:05 PM   #2
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OMG! What a disaster! I'll stay with Win7.

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Old 08-13-2015, 06:08 PM   #3
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Note to self: Do not update to win10....
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Have a backup for that 2TB drive?

BTW, aren't computers fun?
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You DID have a separate backup drive with a current backup on it, didn't you?
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Old 08-13-2015, 06:15 PM   #6
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Another Windows improvement I see. Thanks for the heads up.
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I think the 2 Terabyte drive was the backup.
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my windows xp still works just fine.
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Time to shell out a couple of hundred $ to a geek and get everything squared away
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Time to shell out a couple of hundred $ to a geek and get everything squared away
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For this you have your emergency fund, right?
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That sounds like a nightmare. So sorry.
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I have always had a rule about upgrading MS operating systems. Never update a working operating system, never. You can never know what incompatibilities you will find with whatever hardware, software or configurations you have setup, until it is too late. If it is working, leave it alone. You get the new version when you get your next new computer. So, no, I will not be "upgrading" to Windows 10.
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I have always had a rule about upgrading MS operating systems. Never update a working operating system, never. You can never know what incompatibilities you will find with whatever hardware, software or configurations you have setup, until it is too late. If it is working, leave it alone. You get the new version when you get your next new computer. So, no, I will not be "upgrading" to Windows 10.
my plan exactly. Win7 is supposed to be supported til 2020 (? give or take). by then it'll be time for a new puter... and prolly Win 12 or 13
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I have always had a rule about upgrading MS operating systems. Never update a working operating system, never. You can never know what incompatibilities you will find with whatever hardware, software or configurations you have setup, until it is too late. If it is working, leave it alone. You get the new version when you get your next new computer. So, no, I will not be "upgrading" to Windows 10.



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Sorry to imoldernu for the shock of losing so many digitized records. Perhaps some of your children have copies of some of the material and can help you fill in the blanks if the geeks can't recover some of it.

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I have always had a rule about upgrading MS operating systems. Never update a working operating system, never. You can never know what incompatibilities you will find with whatever hardware, software or configurations you have setup, until it is too late. If it is working, leave it alone. You get the new version when you get your next new computer. So, no, I will not be "upgrading" to Windows 10.
I was just thinking about this. Has Microsoft ever pushed an upgrade to existing PCs so heavily? My MSDOS based pcs run back to maybe 1992--they each kept whatever OS they came with. More recently I think I had three different OS's on a desktop (Windows 95), laptop (XP), and notebook (7) and all ran fine and could share docs. It never occurred to me to upgrade their OS's. My newest laptop was 8 and I really really disliked it, even the mini upgrade to what, 8.1? So is MS's big push to do wholesale upgrades to earlier OS's (something I don't think the company ever did before) an admission that 8 was a really big mistake?

My attempt to upgrade to 10 resulted in my wifi not working. I googled the problem on my iPad and read about several workarounds that may or may not be successful and are certainly not how I want to spend any time. Grrrr. So I solved the problem in a different way at the nearby Apple store.
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I think it is time to contact your grandson at IMSA. He should be able to fix....

E.T.A.--agree with others that I'm glad I've ignored the update notices so far....
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Sorry to hear you had these troubles. In IT we call it being on the "bleeding edge"...
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I have always had a rule about upgrading MS operating systems. Never update a working operating system, never. You can never know what incompatibilities you will find with whatever hardware, software or configurations you have setup, until it is too late. If it is working, leave it alone. You get the new version when you get your next new computer. So, no, I will not be "upgrading" to Windows 10.
Sounds like good advice to me.... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Now that I think of it, I'm not sure that I have ever upgraded an OS, I get a new computer long before the OS is obsolete. And I keep my computers a fairly long time, but not forever.
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I have always had a rule about upgrading MS operating systems. Never update a working operating system, never. You can never know what incompatibilities you will find with whatever hardware, software or configurations you have setup, until it is too late. If it is working, leave it alone. You get the new version when you get your next new computer. So, no, I will not be "upgrading" to Windows 10.
This is what I have always done, especially since MS has never been known to deliver high quality bug free new releases. It is not clear what requirement is being met for those upgrading to Windows 10, except perhaps price.

Imoldernu, +3 or 4 on the suggestion to break open the emergency fund piggy bank and call in a nerd. Many of us have suffered this type of HW failure, it's painful but you will survive. Best of luck.
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