air conditioning - Page 2

Moemg · 09-06-2008, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by REWahoo

What brand unit did you go with?

I went with Comfortmaker .It's now made by Carrier. It was formerly made by ICP which is the brand Dawg recommened .I also had bad luck with a Trane unit . It had major problems in the first four years . Dealing with air conditioner guys is akin to cars salesman . You just have to hope you got a decent deal . I ended up paying a little over $5,000 for a 5 ton 14 seer unit that has the two fans. That includes all installation including a crane to remove my other unit and set this in place . My air conditioner is 17 ' off the ground . It comes with a ten year warranty and with any luck I'll have sold this house way before then.

FreeAtLast · 09-06-2008, 08:49 PM

My house is also about 2500 sq ft and I replaced a 4 ton unit about 2 years ago which was about 18 years old. I decided to go to up to a 5 ton unit as the house never cooled well in the summer when we had a crowd of people over. I live in South Florida so A/C is everything in the summer. I saw an immediate saving in my bill.

Moemg · 09-09-2008, 03:06 PM

I had the new air conditioner installed today and after I paid the bill the installer kept hanging around . I assume he was hinting for a tip. I did not take the bait . Was I cheap and if you do tip how much would you tip ? Even 10% seems high for a job he's getting paid to do .

cute fuzzy bunny · 09-09-2008, 03:10 PM

Maybe he liked ya!

I've heard that some of these guys try to get a tip. Unless they make me some lunch and a cocktail or did something extra without charging me, I dont think so...

cute fuzzy bunny · 09-09-2008, 03:14 PM

Should I Tip Installation Technicians - HVAC-Talk: Heating, Air & Refrigeration Discussion

OAG · 09-09-2008, 03:14 PM

I would be surprised (and not pleasantly so) if he did not have his "tip" already built in. This was the middle estimate, was it not?

Moemg · 09-09-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OAG

I would be surprised (and not pleasantly so) if he did not have his "tip" already built in. This was the middle estimate, was it not?

No , it was the low estimate and the installer did not give the estimate the salesman did . My other two estimates were 1,000 more . That is a heck of a tip !

Dawg54 · 09-09-2008, 07:53 PM

Tip? Heck no. Does anyone tip a roofer, plumber, car mechanic, etc...for work they do? I know I haven't. Maybe that is another reason I'm a COB.

cute fuzzy bunny · 09-09-2008, 07:55 PM

Maybe you should read up over at hvac-talk for a while. Those guys think they're skill levels are equivalent to MD's and that the customer should just pick them and fork over their money before they have to do any work, since the average customer is just going to 'use their bid' to drive other guys down.

That was close to my experience. Several of the companies I asked to bid never told me what they would install or how much it'd be until I was 'ready to do business'.

Funny bunch.

Moemg · 09-09-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cute fuzzy bunny

Maybe you should read up over at hvac-talk for a while. Those guys think they're skill levels are equivalent to MD's and that the customer should just pick them and fork over their money before they have to do any work, since the average customer is just going to 'use their bid' to drive other guys down.

That was close to my experience. Several of the companies I asked to bid never told me what they would install or how much it'd be until I was 'ready to do business'.

Funny bunch.

No, things must be slow in Florida because they were really willing to deal . I got three bids and this was the best .The company that was doing the maintenance on my other unit said they could not match this price .They came on time installed the unit and did not look like they were dragged from rehab to do the work so I'm happy . They may be sad because I did not tip but oh well .

Dawg54 · 09-09-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cute fuzzy bunny

Maybe you should read up over at hvac-talk for a while. Those guys think they're skill levels are equivalent to MD's and that the customer should just pick them and fork over their money before they have to do any work, since the average customer is just going to 'use their bid' to drive other guys down.

That was close to my experience. Several of the companies I asked to bid never told me what they would install or how much it'd be until I was 'ready to do business'.

Funny bunch.

Well I don't pay a doctor a tip so I sure as hell wouldn't pay these friggers one.

bbbamI · 09-09-2008, 08:36 PM

Hmmm, depends on his looks....

Ah, who am I kidding, I'm too cheap to tip someone like that...and too dumb to know that I'm "supposed" to.

Guess I don't get out much.

cute fuzzy bunny · 09-09-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Moemg

installed the unit

Take some pictures and post them!

Moemg · 09-09-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bbbamI

Hmmm, depends on his looks....

Ah, who am I kidding, I'm too cheap to tip someone like that...and too dumb to know that I'm "supposed" to.

Guess I don't get out much.

Actually he was kind of cute but I still was not taking the bait !

Moemg · 09-09-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cute fuzzy bunny

Take some pictures and post them!

The only problem with taking pictures is they had to bring a crane to remove my old unit and replace the new one . It is 17' up because my house is elevated . That added $350 to the cost . I do have a picture of the installer (he's cute ) because I just got a new digital camera and was trying it out .

bbbamI · 09-09-2008, 09:06 PM

You know, it's really simple....the guys just need to try harder....

cute fuzzy bunny · 09-09-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moemg

because I just got a new digital camera and was trying it out .

Eh heh.

**Bestwifeever** · 09-09-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Moemg

The only problem with taking pictures is they had to bring a crane to remove my old unit and replace the new one . It is 17' up because my house is elevated . That added $350 to the cost . I do have a picture of the installer (he's cute ) because I just got a new digital camera and was trying it out .

Good thing thefed didn't see you "trying out" your new camera on a cute guy

cute fuzzy bunny · 09-09-2008, 09:26 PM

Moemg · 09-09-2008, 09:34 PM

Okay here is my picture . I missed his face but I did get his assests !

09-09-2008, 03:10 PM	#24
cute fuzzy bunny Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Losing my whump Posts: 22,527	Maybe he liked ya! I've heard that some of these guys try to get a tip. Unless they make me some lunch and a cocktail or did something extra without charging me, I dont think so... __________________ Many an optimist has become rich by buying out a pessimist

09-09-2008, 03:14 PM	#25
cute fuzzy bunny Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Losing my whump Posts: 22,527	Should I Tip Installation Technicians - HVAC-Talk: Heating, Air & Refrigeration Discussion __________________ Many an optimist has become rich by buying out a pessimist

09-09-2008, 03:14 PM	#26
OAG Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dublin, Ohio Posts: 1,830	I would be surprised (and not pleasantly so) if he did not have his "tip" already built in. This was the middle estimate, was it not? __________________ Proud Vietnam Veteran: Cu Chi 66, 1/25th, HHC 25th and Pleiku 66-67 41st Sig Bn 1st STRATCOM

09-09-2008, 07:53 PM	#28
Dawg54 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,228	Tip? Heck no. Does anyone tip a roofer, plumber, car mechanic, etc...for work they do? I know I haven't. Maybe that is another reason I'm a COB. __________________ The born loser.

09-09-2008, 07:55 PM	#29
cute fuzzy bunny Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Losing my whump Posts: 22,527	Maybe you should read up over at hvac-talk for a while. Those guys think they're skill levels are equivalent to MD's and that the customer should just pick them and fork over their money before they have to do any work, since the average customer is just going to 'use their bid' to drive other guys down. That was close to my experience. Several of the companies I asked to bid never told me what they would install or how much it'd be until I was 'ready to do business'. Funny bunch. __________________ Many an optimist has become rich by buying out a pessimist

09-06-2008, 08:49 PM	#22
FreeAtLast Dryer sheet aficionado Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 49	My house is also about 2500 sq ft and I replaced a 4 ton unit about 2 years ago which was about 18 years old. I decided to go to up to a 5 ton unit as the house never cooled well in the summer when we had a crowd of people over. I live in South Florida so A/C is everything in the summer. I saw an immediate saving in my bill.

09-09-2008, 03:06 PM	#23
Moemg Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sarasota,fl. Posts: 3,096	I had the new air conditioner installed today and after I paid the bill the installer kept hanging around . I assume he was hinting for a tip. I did not take the bait . Was I cheap and if you do tip how much would you tip ? Even 10% seems high for a job he's getting paid to do .

09-09-2008, 08:36 PM	#32
bbbamI Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,818	Hmmm, depends on his looks.... Ah, who am I kidding, I'm too cheap to tip someone like that...and too dumb to know that I'm "supposed" to. Guess I don't get out much. __________________ Enjoy life.

09-09-2008, 09:06 PM	#36
bbbamI Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,818	You know, it's really simple....the guys just need to try harder.... __________________ Enjoy life.