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Old 01-30-2006, 08:08 PM   #41
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She said "Why the @#$% would I want a Lexus after fixing the Altima? Besides, I've ridden in a Lexus-- those leather seats are too slippery!"
I prefer the feel and breathability of cloth seats over leather. Sort of limits the luxury level of my furniture/vehicle purchases.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:38 PM   #42
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Wally - our other two cars are an expedition and a rav4...she already had a lot of good options for "riding up high"! As far as new vs used, she's never had a brand new, really nice car before in her life, just the sensible year or two or three old ones. It was time.

Nords, I left that prune thing in there for you. I'm pleased to see you still read for content as well as explosive characteristics. I am however, quote certain you could tell a prairie dog from a beaver. I can do so in the dark.

She isnt a leather interior type either, but thats the only way the car comes!

I finally drove it tonight. Very nice. I made sure she got the good buying experience in and got to drive it home and to work to show it off without my big hairy ass hitting the seat until after that was all over.

Tomorrow its up to the in-laws to show off. :
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Congrats! Now post some pics of you standing in front of it, with a Sacramento Kings baseball cap on sideways, dark spy sunglasses, baggy t-shirt and gold chains, maybe some K-Swiss strapped to yo' feet, flashing a gang sign! That would be dope!

I tried to convince DW to let me get the S60 a full limo tint and 22" spinners, she stopped listening to me half way through the sales pitch!

Seriously, I'm all into LBYM, but if a purchase makes no change to the firecalc numbers, so to speak, everybody should experience the nice car feeling at least once. I bet there are a lot of people here who would pay that amount to go to space, and that experience only lasts days! Of course, some peoples' nice cars are nicer than others!
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Eh, I was holding a little too much cash, couldnt really figure out what I wanted to do with it.

Along comes the wife, problem solved!

As I told my dad when he asked why she wanted it; i've had a bunch of really nice new cars. I dont need one right now, in fact I'd rather drive a beater. But my wifes never had a really nice new car. I'd probably what-if or wonder on if i'd never had one. I have and dont. Now she's got one and wont have to wonder either...
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Congrats!* Now post some pics of you standing in front of it, with a Sacramento Kings baseball cap on
My oldest daughter works for the Kings. Anytime I want to go to Arco, she has tickets for me.
After going a few times this year, agree with you, maybe try baseball.
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As far as keeping them...Gabe might end up learning to drive in this car!
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First, it is not too late to get the extended warrenty... I have an Acura and they said I had until the original warranty expired...

The 'cost' of these are not half, but more like 10%... they make a sh@t load of money off them... and for a Lexus, Acura, Honda, Toyota are not even worth buying... you only get a few more years or a few more miles.... if the car was so bad you would not have bought it anyhow...
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Thats the conclusion I came to. Once I told the finance/second sales guy (cause thats what they are) I wasnt going to buy "today" if I was going to be pressed to do so "today", he admitted that I had until the last day of the factory warranty to buy, and that unless his costs went up during that time period, he'd honor the "deal" we had partially negotiated. Methinks theres another notch down in price as he wasnt squealing yet.

After looking at the warranties, I get 48/50k bumper to bumper, 7/70k on the powertrain, and extensions for the engine control computer, the emissions and the safety gear. The extended warranty that they have is a 7/70. They generously list all the stuff thats already covered by the powertrain and other warranty extensions.

When I took all the stuff out thats already covered, about all that was left that I thought had a chance of suddenly blowing up between 4 years and 7 was the air conditioning compressor, the dvd drive for the nav system, the cd changer and the screen for the nav system. I doubt any one of those would cost more than the $2k cost of the extended warranty. I doubt all of them would go in a 3 year period. Apparently so does lexus.

I figure I'll wait the 4 years. If the car has a lot of niggly little problems that get fixed under warranty, i'll buy it. If its pretty much problem free, we'll pass.

As far as "if the car was so bad you would not have bought it anyhow", spot on. First thing I said to the finance/sales guy was almost just that "We know we're buying one of the most reliable cars made, so we expect great reliability and to never need the warranty for anything serious". Then he's backed into the corner of having to tell me the car i'm buying isnt very reliable, or shortening the sales pitch.

As a point of interest, this didnt stop the guy who tried to sell my dad the extended warranty when he bought his new Toyota a couple of years ago. The guy flat out said that all cars are full of electronics today and are very unreliable as a result, and that this situation didnt exclude toyotas. He all but said the car was going to implode the moment it was out of warranty, perhaps sooner. My dad actually bought the warranty and then went back the next day and asked for his money back. He was subjected to a second 15 minute spiel about how nuts he was to cancel, complete with eye rolling and tongue clucking.

From what i've heard, they arent making a lot of money on cars these days but are making their profits from sales of the paint/fabric protection and the extended warranties.

Considering they made ~2% on my car (not including any holdbacks or factory to dealer incentives I dont know about), that would seem to be the case...
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The 'cost' of these are not half, but more like 10%... they make a sh@t load of money off them... and for a Lexus, Acura, Honda, Toyota are not even worth buying... you only get a few more years or a few more miles.... if the car was so bad you would not have bought it anyhow...
I don't buy the 10% figure. I'm sure there's a huge mark-up, but I doubt it is 900% of the cost. When I got my 4 extra years of coverage on a honda civic, the retail price was ~1000, and I paid ~500. Hondas are great, but there's wear and tear stuff that gets covered under warranty (my $260 oxygen sensor replacement was under warranty). Granted, had put that $500 I paid into the bank for seven years instead of buying a warranty, I'd have more than $500 at the end. But the fact that I'm only out $240 of what I paid with 1.5 years left of manufacturer warranty leaves me feeling pretty good.

If I had to do it over, I wouldn't bother getting the warranty even at cost. I have enough money to pay for whatever could break (The car only costs $14-15k brand spankin new). It is only effective for years 4-7 (or whatever the term is after the initial warranty expires). Then there's the hassle of submitting paperwork, figuring out which mechanical problems are under warranty, disputing denied claims, etc. Not worth the headache. My local honda dealership charges $86 for a diagnostic check to tell you whether the mechanical problem is under warranty or not. If it's under warranty, they'll waive your diagnostic charge. If it isn't under warranty, you're out $86 and your car is still broken. No thanks, my local honda specialist is much cheaper, more friendly and more competent.
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I look at it in the broader context and in line with considering it Just More Insurance.

If I dont take any of the extended warranties on anything, even if its not a Bad Idea on its own (like notebooks, big screen tv's and cars), and I keep a high deductible on all of my insurance, something somewhere along the line is going to happen to cost me out of pocket. Its pretty unlikely that my notebook will crap out, my tv will blow up, and someone will crash into my car all about the same time. So i'm "self insuring" against the individual risk I'm taking on vs the extended warranty and insurance companies spreading that risk and taking the premium.

On the other hand, this year my laptop broke and my tv blew up. Maybe I shouldnt drive for a while.

On the third hand, the laptop and tv would have been well past any extended warranties I would have bought.

I *am* actually considering lowering my deductible on the lexus from the $5000 I carry on all the cars to a thousand or $2500, at least for the first year. Car has a lot of distracting electronics and learning to drive a new car, especially when you're alternately driving among three different cars, might be conducive to a dent.
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I look at it in the broader context and in line with considering it Just More Insurance.
Yep. I don't buy extended warranties on anything in general now. One more thing to keep track of and process in the event something goes wrong. I figure anything I own I can either repair or it ain't worth repairing and I can buy another one (cars included, after a certain point).
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I did buy an extended warranty on the first big screen tv I bought, then the retailer I bought it from (Incredible Universe) got bought by someone else (Fry's) and after that Nobody Knew Anything about the warranty.

TV is still running, ~11 years later. All the other ones I didnt buy the warranty on have died.

Heyyyyyyy......
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Maybe your lesson should be, stop buying so many tvs!! The more you buy, the higher the odds that one of them will fail.
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I'm with you guys as far as buying extended warranties on appliances.* They have very few moving parts and the cost to price ratio is crazy.

As far as cars are concerned they have in excess of 14000 moving parts plus all kinds of electronics.* * I would always recommend the extended warranty from the manufacturer only.

Some guys have said they feel good about the extended warranty purchase only if the got to use them.* I hope they don't feel that way about life insurance.* I don't think too many people would buy home owners insurance to hope their house would burn down.
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Some guys have said they feel good about the extended warranty purchase only if the got to use them. I hope they don't feel that way about life insurance. I don't think too many people would buy home owners insurance to hope their house would burn down.
I kept calling my extended warranty the best money I ever wasted. Until I used it. Let's hope I don't have to use it any more for a while.
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I just hope i dont have to use my extended warranty, my car insurance and my life insurance all at the same time.
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Well, I think we need Pictures of this Ride! - What Color is it? - It is an LS430 right?
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I just hope i dont have to use my extended warranty, my car insurance and my life insurance all at the same time.
No worries mate!

It would not be YOU using them.
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Well, I think we need Pictures of this Ride! - What Color is it? - It is an LS430 right?
Yep, LS430. Its silver, gray interior. I was a little bit fond of the pale green with the light tan interior, but the only one within a hundred miles or so had the 10,000 extra option package and I wasnt in the mood to pay that much for the laser/radar guided cruise control that automatically slows the vehicle if someone in front of you slows down. I can tap the brake pedal and hit a button once in a while for ten grand.

Pictures soon. Its hiding in the garage at this point in time and even a brief view of the chaos inside my garage is believed to cause temporary insanity, which may become permanent with repeated viewings.

I'll save y'all the typing: Yes, THATS what happened.

I'll get the mrs into a bikini and have her lounge on the hood. After she slides off from the wax I'll take a couple of shots of the car and post them.
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I'll get the mrs into a bikini and have her lounge on the hood. After she slides off from the wax I'll take a couple of shots of the car and post them.
I beat ya' to it... Aiyeeee!

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