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Old 02-19-2007, 08:48 AM   #41
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The battery on my watch went dead soon after I retired and I haven't seen the need to fix it. Watches will soon be a thing of the past. Ask a roomful of college age students who has a watch and you will find almost none of them do. They are all carrying cell phones or iPods that already have the time on them so they have no need for a seperate watch.
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Re: Am I the only person without a cell phone?
Old 02-19-2007, 01:01 PM   #42
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No cell phone. I'm just about the only 20-something I know without one. They are kind of a pain in the butt. I might like to use one once per month, but the hassles of keeping up with one exceed the potential benefit. Then there's the problem of other people calling me. Like work, or my mom, or my BIL, or my wife, etc. etc! I might get one someday. I got my wife a cell phone from tracfone and it's good for a year for around $50 or so.

I've noticed a change in the way social activities occur. Instead of making plans for the evening or for lunch, it's "I'll call you around noon and we'll get together". Folks act like it is a huge hassle to actually decide anything beforehand instead of on-the-fly via cell phone.
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Old 02-19-2007, 01:30 PM   #43
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We gave up our land line about 5 years ago. DH and I have cell phones, which cost $100/mo. We have unlimited everything on them. We are planning to move to the country if our house sells. Not sure if cells will be very good there. Anyway I'm looking forward to going back to a land line; DH is not. Our three kids and others in our family think we're nuts for giving up the cells. Of course, they are used to getting instant responses from us, so its more their problem than ours. I guess they'll have to adjust.
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I've noticed a change in the way social activities occur. Instead of making plans for the evening or for lunch, it's "I'll call you around noon and we'll get together". Folks act like it is a huge hassle to actually decide anything beforehand instead of on-the-fly via cell phone.
I find the people walking through the grocery store calling their family members asking them what size and brand of salsa, etc. that they want....a little too connected for my taste...Nobody brought up that cell phone companies are one of the biggest source of consumer complaints....see enough people posting on some other boards with "HELP, I got a $1000 bill from verizon, what should I do"....To me FIRE is going to be able simplifying my life.....

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Old 02-20-2007, 11:44 AM   #45
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We all got cell phones in PV this year. We could always be in contact with each other to plan the next adventure. Has worked great. And a PayGo phone is $45 with $30 talk time credit.

We only use them once in a while but have had many adventures together without planning ourselves to death. Love the flexibility.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:18 PM   #46
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No cell phone here. As a young 27 year old attorney I get looks of disbelief- but it just makes to much sense to me NOT to have one. Im at the office or at home. That extra money I saved after I dumped the cell phone is going towards paying debt and socking some money away.

Once I started cutting expenses it was just to easy to drop the phone and I have never once looked back.

Oh and for some reason Ive never had a watch either- I do have a pretty good internal clock Ive discovered. And the phone and computer on my desk help too...
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:39 PM   #47
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. . . Oh and for some reason Ive never had a watch either . . .
So how do you keep track of those billable hours?
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So how do you keep track of those billable hours?
I just kind of guestimate- its close enough.

I dont have to pay my bill.
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No cell phone here. I had a company one when needed in the past.
I only pull my watch out of a drawer if I take a plane or something like that. But there are plenty of clocks at home, customers...
I still use an alarm clock to make sure my hours don't drift out of what "normal" (quote and quote) people do.
We use 2 VOIP phones one personal and one 800# for business use. That's the cheapest solution.
I will consider cell phone when WImax will be implemented, when DS will not be at home anymore or if I start taking extended business trips again.

Cell phones can really be good to connect to people and I would have needed them in some emergencies. However I noticed they can be an excuse for poor planning. Such as at the Grocery store "Honey do we need bread" instead making a grocery list. Does any one do this these days? (except me ).
I don't have any problem with people leaving messages in my mail box that I can answer IF or when I want to.
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Our three kids and others in our family think we're nuts for giving up the cells. Of course, they are used to getting instant responses from us, so its more their problem than ours. I guess they'll have to adjust.
I am about to throw in the towel and get one myself, for just this reason. It is beginning to be that to choose not to have one is a choice to socially isolate oneself. (To a degree anyway.) Similar to resisting getting a phone 60 or so years ago.

Yes it is simpler, but there is a cost when everyone else can reach one another easily but they can't reach you.

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. . . It is beginning to be that to choose not to have one is a choice to socially isolate oneself. (To a degree anyway.) . . .
I see that this is true. People with cell phones lose all need to plan in advance.

Q: Where will we meet?
A: I'll call you and let you know?
Q: When are you going?
A: I'll call you and let you know?
Q: Are you going to be finished by then?
A: I'll call you and let you know?
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If you don't have a cell phone attached to your ear, you are too difficult to involve in these instantaeous plans. Mostly, that's just fine with me, but I see this trend and realize it's not going to stop. I will either get a cell phone eventually or become a hermit. By the way, how many of you internet proclaimed hermits have cell phones?
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:03 PM   #52
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But at that point, I plan to discontinue my cell phone and the associated $33/month payments. This is $396/year I should not have to spend.
Not sure if someone else has suggested this, but, if you don't use it regularly, get a prepaid phone! The minutes expire after a certain period of time, but even taking that into account, it's much more economical than $33/month if you keep it mainly for emergencies.
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I don't feel isolated not using a cell phone. I am just not interupted during anything I do during the day. People know think I am busy and that they will have to play phone tag with me or even better, I find that most long term planning is done through emails.

Cell phones lend itself to spurr of the moment decisions but anything more than that need to be typed down anyway... With email there is a hard record.
Also an email allows for contacting many people at once. Trying to plan with several people using cell phone is opens up an endless decision loop...
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... With email there is a hard record.
You require a hard record when you want to meet your son for coffee?

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You require a hard record when you want to meet your son for coffee?

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Agreed but when it is planning a trip of my BIL and MIL and with all our schedules we can go back and forth multiple times to reach consensus. Same with a business trip.
Right now I have few occasions similar to what you mention (my son is only 10yo BTW). As I mentioned before I probably will get a cell phone once he is out of home.
We are the only one in the family without cell phones and probably we also are the only LBYM. Maybe we are very annoying to them .

Anyway there is nothing wrong about cell phones since they can be turned off anyway. I am looking into it every now and then but didn't decide to fork with the money yet...

BTW I was in NYC this WE at the Nat. Hist Museum I came across at least 3 occasions of people looking for each other using their cell phone. For us we just stay together or say "If we get lost let's meet at this location..."
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If I set up an appointment with someone for coffee or a lunch, I expect them to be respectful enough to show up. I think the general rule of thumb for social engagements applies - 15 minutes late is the outside edge of what is acceptable. If I make an appointment with you, I have shown that I have reserved that time period for you, and only you, because you (and our time together) is important. I felt it was important enough to set up a get together. I guess it is about mutual respect.

Then enters the cell phone. All of a sudden time schedules become flexible. "Hey, can we push back that meeting 15 minutes? I'm really busy right now, and I want to meet, but I can't right now. I'm just slammed." Translation - poor planning. If this were the exception instead of the rule, I would understand. However, the flex-time seems to be the rule now. Maybe I'm just getting my "ole curmudgeon" a little early.

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If I set up an appointment with someone for coffee or a lunch, I expect them to be respectful enough to show up. I think the general rule of thumb for social engagements applies - 15 minutes late is the outside edge of what is acceptable.
If it's business, I've learned to bring a book and a backup plan. After 15 minutes I'll go ahead with my backup plan (lunch & a walk, or just finishing the rest of my errands) and the heck with their business. If it's important then we'll meet again, largely at my convenience, but probably not for lunch.

If it's with a friend, of course, I'm flexible.

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I guess it is about mutual respect.
"Hey, can we push back that meeting 15 minutes? I'm really busy right now, and I want to meet, but I can't right now. I'm just slammed."
Maybe I'm just getting my "ole curmudgeon" a little early.
Let's see, they really want to meet with us but they think it's more important for us to wait on them while they're preoccupied by whatever's in their cubicle. Whatever it is, even if it's their boss, it better be experiencing actual combustion at that moment.

Our lunch appointment gave them the perfect excuse to look at their watch, smack their forehead, and run out of the office saying "Sorry, gotta go!!!" Instead they chose to put us on hold. Not only does it tell us about their planning & priorities, I guess it also shows where we rate on their scale of mutual respect. Not a great way to start a client relationship!

If it's a friend doing that, then I guess they've just shown what type of friend they are.
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I have a cell phone and landline here - we also have Skype - ummm, it's more for my husband's benefit - the cell phone is courtesy of work and also has email on it - as for answering the cell phone :-) I'm really bad - I get voicemails from my colleague all the time: "Why the he!! do you have a cell phone if you aren't going to answer it!" Uhh, that's what voicemail is for.

I love the text messaging and learned about that in Europe - was so much cheaper than calling and talking - allowed my husband and I to let each other know of our ETAs (we lived in different countries then).

AS for attention span and controlling other people's time, that's what the on/off switch is for - if one doesn't have the self-discipline, then I can see the cell phone would be a problem.....occasionally I have issues - usually when I've had too much coffee - seems to make me jumpy and mush more responsive to external prodding :-)

I do not take phone calls while driving - too dangerous - if I'm talking then I lose the ability to steer clear of the other guy weaving because he's talking on his cell phone - bad business there.....

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Our lunch appointment gave them the perfect excuse to look at their watch, smack their forehead, and run out of the office saying "Sorry, gotta go!!!" Instead they chose to put us on hold. Not only does it tell us about their planning & priorities, I guess it also shows where we rate on their scale of mutual respect. Not a great way to start a client relationship!

If it's a friend doing that, then I guess they've just shown what type of friend they are.
My perception is that it is okay (at least among my peers - 20-somethings) to blow off or significantly postpone an appt, as long as you call within 15 minutes or so of the appt and let the person know you are cancelling. I guess it doesn't happen that often, but when it does, I just wonder "what were you thinking?".

What I'm saying is that the standards of mutual respect seem to have changed. From the point of view of many members of my peer group, it is acceptable to change plans or cancel at the last minute if something slightly more pressing or interesting comes along. Maybe I'm just an a$$hat But if I have plans, I respect those I am meeting and show up, even if something else (a non-emergency) comes along. Or I let them know plenty ahead of time so that they can make other plans.
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My perception is that it is okay (at least among my peers - 20-somethings) to blow off or significantly postpone an appt, as long as you call within 15 minutes or so of the appt and let the person know you are cancelling. I guess it doesn't happen that often, but when it does, I just wonder "what were you thinking?".

What I'm saying is that the standards of mutual respect seem to have changed. From the point of view of many members of my peer group, it is acceptable to change plans or cancel at the last minute if something slightly more pressing or interesting comes along. Maybe I'm just an a$$hat But if I have plans, I respect those I am meeting and show up, even if something else (a non-emergency) comes along. Or I let them know plenty ahead of time so that they can make other plans.
I read an article not long ago in the WSJ about young people using text messaging or email to break up relationships. No need to go face to face and fess up that it is over. Instead, say "i dnt luv u im b8kn up." Or something to that effect.
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