|
An Ancient Greek Lesson About LBYM and FIRE
12-05-2011, 07:39 PM
|
#1
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 757
|
An Ancient Greek Lesson About LBYM and FIRE
Saw this and it resonated with me. I've always felt that maybe I could have done better in the work world had I sucked up more to my "superiors." Where would that have gotten me? Possibly promotions, better raises, and maybe less harassment. Instead, I took the route of being more of my own person and since work wasn't going so well in any area, making an early escape by living below my means (even though my salary was low), saving and investing my money.
I just read this and thought that this is a kindred soul whom many on this forum can relate to:
A philosopher named Aristippus, who had quite willingly sucked up to Dionysus and won himself a spot at his court, saw Diogenes cooking lentils for a meal. "If you would only learn to compliment Dionysus, you wouldn't have to live on lentils."
Diogenes replied, "But if you would only learn to live on lentils, you wouldn't have to flatter Dionysus."
-------------------------------------------
Diogenes---my new hero!
__________________
“It is not a sign of good health to be well adjusted to a sick society”.------Krishnamurti
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
12-05-2011, 07:50 PM
|
#2
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: the City of Subdued Excitement
Posts: 5,588
|
+1!
__________________
I have outlived most of the people I don't like and I am working on the rest.
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 01:17 AM
|
#3
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Thousand Oaks
Posts: 1,111
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by tangomonster
Saw this and it resonated with me. I've always felt that maybe I could have done better in the work world had I sucked up more to my "superiors." Where would that have gotten me? Possibly promotions, better raises, and maybe less harassment. Instead, I took the route of being more of my own person and since work wasn't going so well in any area, making an early escape by living below my means (even though my salary was low), saving and investing my money.
I just read this and thought that this is a kindred soul whom many on this forum can relate to:
A philosopher named Aristippus, who had quite willingly sucked up to Dionysus and won himself a spot at his court, saw Diogenes cooking lentils for a meal. "If you would only learn to compliment Dionysus, you wouldn't have to live on lentils."
Diogenes replied, "But if you would only learn to live on lentils, you wouldn't have to flatter Dionysus."
-------------------------------------------
Diogenes---my new hero!
|
Lentils... Diogenes must be a Early Retirement Extreme Reader
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 04:02 AM
|
#4
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The Bay Area
Posts: 2,736
|
Did Diogenes go to work on Wallstreet?
__________________
You may be whatever you resolve to be.
100% x 10% > 10% x 100%
Small pensions & SS cover essentials
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 06:33 AM
|
#5
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 11,327
|
This is actually a complicated topic TM. There are plenty of insecure or simply nasty supervisors and managers who can't deal with any criticism and surround themselves with sycophants. But, in my experience, there are far more who are normal, decent human beings trying to get the job done. For those young dreamers out there still facing a long haul at the office I recommend getting away from bosses of the first type as fast as you can. But for every type 1 boss I saw skulking around, I saw a few talented but disgruntled employees who everyone in the workforce rolled their eyes at. Employees who were hypercritical of everything the organization did, who were so certain that they could do better but were never promoted because management didn't respect talent, blah, blah. The reality is that no manager with an ounce of sense would put one of these misfits in charge of a work group. And when they were promoted to supervisory jobs (usually because of their talents and in spite of their negativity) they often ended up one of those type 1 bosses (or screamers, which may be worse).
__________________
Idleness is fatal only to the mediocre -- Albert Camus
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 07:24 AM
|
#6
|
Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: anywhere usa
Posts: 246
|
My life got much easier once I learned it was my responsibility to manage the relationship with my manager. Far, far more valuable that working hard or having talent.
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 01:13 PM
|
#7
|
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hooverville
Posts: 22,983
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimpmyretirement
My life got much easier once I learned it was my responsibility to manage the relationship with my manager. Far, far more valuable that working hard or having talent.
|
Sounds like no fun at all. Dismaying enough to manage a relationship with your woman, and she at least will sleep with you if you are doing a reasonable job of relationship managing.
Ha
__________________
"As a general rule, the more dangerous or inappropriate a conversation, the more interesting it is."-Scott Adams
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 05:07 PM
|
#8
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 625
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by haha
Sounds like no fun at all. Dismaying enough to manage a relationship with your woman, and she at least will sleep with you if you are doing a reasonable job of relationship managing.
Ha
|
And the manager gives you money. The oldest profession, and all that.
That said, I love the story in the OP.
Like the quote in V for Vendetta says, our integrity sells for so little, but in the end, it's all we have.
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 08:01 PM
|
#9
|
Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 757
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by arebelspy
Like the quote in V for Vendetta says, our integrity sells for so little, but in the end, it's all we have.
|
Never saw the movie, but I love that line!
__________________
“It is not a sign of good health to be well adjusted to a sick society”.------Krishnamurti
|
|
|
12-06-2011, 08:45 PM
|
#10
|
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Moscow
Posts: 1,572
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by haha
Sounds like no fun at all. Dismaying enough to manage a relationship with your woman, and she at least will sleep with you if you are doing a reasonable job of relationship managing.
Ha
|
And your manager may screw you if you don't manage that relationship well.
__________________
You can't enlighten the unconscious.
But you can hit'em upside the head a few times to make sure they are really out...
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
» Quick Links
|
|
|