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Old 06-08-2012, 02:55 PM   #41
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I would have helped this lady and would have taken her wallet into the store. The chance that she could have a police officer believe that you or I stole her wallet is about zero.
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:01 PM   #42
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Pretty sad, but not only with Meth, I've noticed the chronic abusers of oxycodone, hydrocodone, methadone, morphine and other narcotics, look like they've been ridden hard. They easily look 10 years older than they are.
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:07 PM   #43
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Durn! I thought those were pictures of people who kept putting off retirement...
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:39 PM   #44
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I wonder what the panhandlers will do when most everyone goes cashless. Carry a CC donation machine?
Oh, they'll probably have your smartphone app send their smartphone app some money.

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:36 PM   #45
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Oh, they'll probably have your smartphone app send their smartphone app some money.

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Old 06-08-2012, 10:30 PM   #46
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Isn't it a sorry state of affairs that we always have to be on the lookout for scam artists?

One of the tv news journalists featured recently some "homeless" panhandlers who seek money or food on the side of the road. He followed some of them back home to their stick built houses in walking distance from the corners where they panhandle. The panhandlers admitted that they make $100-150 dollars per day preying upon the compassion of others and prefer that to a day job.
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Local Reverend gets 5-10 people a week showing (sometimes with kids) asking for money for food.

He won't/can't give cash but tells them that he has a tab at the small grocery store across the street. "Go get anything you want and just tell them I sent you".

In 20 years........not ONE person has gone. Not one.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:30 AM   #48
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Last night I caught part of a segment on ABC's "What Would You Do?" which is a little like this generation's "Candid Camera" with a moral question. The segment was about fake panhandlers who are really not blind or disabled as they claim to be, and if anyone who witnesses the fake scamsters will speak up and warn potential donors to not give them anything. The scamster and donors are all actors in on the sketch. Made for pretty good television.
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Old 06-09-2012, 10:51 AM   #49
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Idea for new Reality TV show. Title is "What's Your Scam?" Grifters apply to be on the show. 3 of them per night. They compete with one another to impress the judges with their creativity, etc. The winning grifter gets $100,000 cash, and if the scam is original enough, gets a free patent attorney to help him save it all for himself, forever. Scam must involve abuse of taxpayer money, not private donations.
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Idea for new Reality TV show. Title is "What's Your Scam?" Grifters apply to be on the show. 3 of them per night. They compete with one another to impress the judges with their creativity, etc. The winning grifter gets $100,000 cash, and if the scam is original enough, gets a free patent attorney to help him save it all for himself, forever. Scam must involve abuse of taxpayer money, not private donations.
Awww heck that's easy! Some of the best and most creative are the people involved in politics.
And not every psychopath can make it, either. Only the best psychopaths make it into politics to make it a career...
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Idea for new Reality TV show. Title is "What's Your Scam?" Grifters apply to be on the show. 3 of them per night. They compete with one another to impress the judges with their creativity, etc. The winning grifter gets $100,000 cash, and if the scam is original enough, gets a free patent attorney to help him save it all for himself, forever. Scam must involve abuse of taxpayer money, not private donations.
Hmmm... Why do I keep visualizing a parade of defense contractors?
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There are lots of grifters and scammers out there for sure. Run into plenty of them myself. I also believe there are plenty of people truly in need, particularly during these difficult times. Perhaps it's better to donate to a reputable charity or trust the government take care of the problem and forget about it.

I think many people fall through the cracks. Like those who are reluctant to receive assistance because they have mental issues or are too proud to get handouts. It's nearly impossible to tell the difference between the scammers and unfortunate souls.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:40 PM   #53
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My local county is dealing with them by requiring registration and imposing some rules -
Summit County to crack down on beggars - News - Ohio

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In addition to requiring panhandlers to register and wear a safety vest, the proposal would bar them from begging within 25 feet of intersections, shopping plaza entrances, bus stops, ATMs, banks, restaurants, gas stations, liquor stores, public
 restrooms, convenience stores, check-cashing businesses and self-service car washes.


The legislation also would prohibit aggressive panhandling, such as following people or disrupting traffic; begging from sunset to 9 a.m.; and lying to get money
I love the part about prohibiting lying to get money. Like that could be enforced!

A few years ago this same paper had an article about a driver who noticed a different panhandler everyday on his freeway exit ramp. So he asked talked to one of them. The panhandler told him that he was hired to stand there with the sign.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:46 PM   #54
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I had a guy try and scam me this last week. I was coming out of a Home Depot and he came running up behind me with some story about how he needed a ride down the road. Since I was going in that direction, I said sure. What can I say, I do try and be a nice guy.

So while we're cruising down the road, in the 5 minutes from A to B, he brought up god (particularly the 'do unto others' part), being in the military, the fact that he was weathy and had a nicer car than me, and his wife who was supposed to pick him up but had her cell phone off. It was all a bit too cliche to try and make me sympathize and trust him. When someone pontificates that much, you know something's not right.

Of course, we get there, his wife isn't anywhere to be found, and he asks for $40 for a locksmith. I tell him I don't carry cash so he asks me to go to an ATM .

I make sure we're in a very public area and start blowing holes in his story. Can I see your military ID? Don't have that? Not sure how you're going to get on base - can I talk to someone in your command, maybe call the OOD? Oh really, you just got here and don't know anyone? Really, you're not allowed to give a civy the phone number to anyone there or at your prior command? Was that a debit card I saw you pull out with your blackberry? Why can't you use that? Oh, you damaged the strip? You can type the numbers in you know. Oh, I'm sorry you don't know your own PIN. By the way, when you were calling your wife, I didn't hear your phone ring, mind if I try her number? I totally forgot to even ask him what good a locksmith was going to do him if his wife has his car.

Eventually he got to "Do I look like someone who would try and scam you?" to which I replied "Do I look like someone who would be easy to scam?"

Note, in restrospect, many of these actions weren't wise and should not be construed as advice. I should've taken much more care before letting a stranger in my car and prevented the whole situation from occuring. More of a cautionary tale for my fellow friendly folks so that you may recognize this type of thing better than I and be more prepared.
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Note, in restrospect, many of these actions weren't wise and should not be construed as advice.
I don't think you have any worries there.

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Here's a story about a local panhandler. She's not looking for money for food or shelter, but for ....... uh, just watch the video -

Akron: Woman panhandles for breast implants | wkyc.com
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