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Old 10-16-2014, 01:51 PM   #21
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HBO just handed me the scissors indeed! I have been pushing to get rid of cable TV for a while but DW could not live without HBO. Snip snip!
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:55 PM   #22
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We have 10mbps Internet and we stream HD just fine at 1068i. I think we even did pretty well at 6mbps.
I am streaming 1080p (vs 1080i) and it gets choppy at times. I end up downloading and watching it at another time.
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Haven't figured out how to get these *easily* so still have cable and HD package:
1) PBS and BBC news
2) PBS series (Masterpiece Theater, Nova, occasional Frontline) on an HD TV screen
3) Baseball playoff series
4) 49ers games
5) DVR to time shift items 1 & 2
6) A few series like "The Profit"

The above plus all the other junk stuff we get now for about $50 above the internet connection which is at 50 Mbps.

We read a lot and watch Netflix DVD's and occasionally some streamed stuff too.
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HBO just handed me the scissors indeed! I have been pushing to get rid of cable TV for a while but DW could not live without HBO. Snip snip!
My understanding is that at least at first, HBO's online streaming content wouldn't be the same as what they offer on cable and satellite. That could (and probably will) change over time, though. Right now the content creators are a little gun-shy about pissing off the cable and satellite companies, but if this idea gains more traction and more people cut the cable and ditch the dish, I'd expect them to go more "all in" with this content delivery approach.
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Another nail for Cable TV's (all bundled subscription) coffin?
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Another nail for Cable TV's (all bundled subscription) coffin?

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My understanding is that at least at first, HBO's online streaming content wouldn't be the same as what they offer on cable and satellite. That could (and probably will) change over time, though. Right now the content creators are a little gun-shy about pissing off the cable and satellite companies, but if this idea gains more traction and more people cut the cable and ditch the dish, I'd expect them to go more "all in" with this content delivery approach.
We'll have to see the actual offering and price point.

The only way I would want to keep cable TV is if they moved to an "a la carte" model. No more subsidizing 400 stupid channels just to get HBO or other channels of interest.
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Science, History, Cooking, Palladia, HGTV, and maybe one movie channel.

Done...

I currently am shaken down for pay $162, including internet.
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Haven't figured out how to get these *easily* so still have cable and HD package:
1) PBS and BBC news
2) PBS series (Masterpiece Theater, Nova, occasional Frontline) on an HD TV screen
3) Baseball playoff series
4) 49ers games
5) DVR to time shift items 1 & 2
6) A few series like "The Profit"

The above plus all the other junk stuff we get now for about $50 above the internet connection which is at 50 Mbps.

We read a lot and watch Netflix DVD's and occasionally some streamed stuff too.
Doesn't solve all your needs, but I hooked up OTA with a cheapo antenna and got 30-40 channels including 4 PBS HD channels and all the major networks in HD. And we're 50 miles from the big city! But I've yet to convince DW...
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Like others, DW is the reason we still pay for cable. I haven't watched a TV show in months.
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I am streaming 1080p (vs 1080i) and it gets choppy at times. I end up downloading and watching it at another time.
I'm not sure exactly which 1080 - but we have no trouble at all.
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The largest cable companies are also the largest internet service providers. I have a hard time believing they will sit by passively and provide the bandwidth needed so that content producers can bypass them and stream directly to consumers.
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The largest cable companies are also the largest internet service providers. I have a hard time believing they will sit by passively and provide the bandwidth needed so that content producers can bypass them and stream directly to consumers.
This is, and has been, my biggest objection to the absorption of ISPs by cable companies, especially with net neutrality on the ropes.
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The largest cable companies are also the largest internet service providers. I have a hard time believing they will sit by passively and provide the bandwidth needed so that content producers can bypass them and stream directly to consumers.
Yeah this had occurred to me as well. Netflix is already paying for access. I'm hoping that either legislation makes this impossible or that the cable companies won't be able to recapture all of their lost revenue and direct streaming reduces prices somewhat.
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Yeah this had occurred to me as well. Netflix is already paying for access. I'm hoping that either legislation makes this impossible or that the cable companies won't be able to recapture all of their lost revenue and direct streaming reduces prices somewhat.
You know, I could probably force myself to be OK with ISPs providing "express service" for an extra fee ***if*** they weren't also in the content provider business. But since they are, it feels like they can engage in restraint of trade and anticompetitive practices by singling out Netflix and Hulu, among others, slowing down the competitors to their cable offerings.
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Haven't figured out how to get these *easily* so still have cable and HD package:
1) PBS and BBC news
2) PBS series (Masterpiece Theater, Nova, occasional Frontline) on an HD TV screen (As mentioned in another reply, an OTA antenna should get these. I got one for ~$40 at Costco three months ago, and I get nice HD channels, almost 30 of 'em--including all the major local ones, plus.)
3) Baseball playoff series
4) 49ers games (NFL Rewind--all team's season games for less than one of your monthly cable bills. But not live. If you want to watch it live on TV, head to your local sports bar instead!)
5) DVR to time shift items 1 & 2
6) A few series like "The Profit" (Earlier episodes available online?)

The above plus all the other junk stuff we get now for about $50 above the internet connection which is at 50 Mbps.

We read a lot and watch Netflix DVD's and occasionally some streamed stuff too.
It can't hurt to get one of those Costco antennas, to start. If it doesn't do the trick for you, they have a fantastic return policy, as we know.
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What is that Costco Antenna?

We've been just using Internet. I like being able to watch when I want.
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It can't hurt to get one of those Costco antennas, to start. If it doesn't do the trick for you, they have a fantastic return policy, as we know.
We live in very hilly terrain. I looked into antennas some time ago and concluded it had a low success probability.
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What is that Costco Antenna?

We've been just using Internet. I like being able to watch when I want.
A Winegard. Here's a link to the non-amplified version. The one I got at Costco is amplified, so it cost about $10 more. I dunno if that non-amplified version would get different channels than the antenna that I have.

If you do get one, it is highly recommended that you try placing the antenna in dozens of different settings--to see which placement delivers the most channels--even if you are satisfied with one placement. And re-scan after every new placement. (You can always go back to that placement.) And, once you are happy with a certain placement of the antenna, about every month thereafter, re-scan the channels on your TV to see if anything has changed since your last re-scan.
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A Winegard. Here's a link to the non-amplified version. The one I got at Costco is amplified, so it cost about $10 more. I dunno if that non-amplified version would get different channels than the antenna that I have.

If you do get one, it is highly recommended that you try placing the antenna in dozens of different settings--to see which placement delivers the most channels--even if you are satisfied with one placement. And re-scan after every new placement. (You can always to back to that placement.) And, once you are happy with a certain placement of the antenna, about every month thereafter, re-scan the channels on your TV to see if anything has changed since your last re-scan.
Thanks.

We were planning to put in an attic powered antenna, but just haven't got around to it. The off-air reception here has worsened considerably over the past year, perhaps because many new homes have been built around us. But it never seems urgent enough. Internet streaming is so nice.
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We live in very hilly terrain. I looked into antennas some time ago and concluded it had a low success probability.
Did you actually try an antenna, or just looked into it? Also, along with the antenna itself, you could attach a signal booster for about another $40. Eighty bucks total ain't a bad deal, if it works.
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We live in very hilly terrain. I looked into antennas some time ago and concluded it had a low success probability.
Seriously, try TV Fool if you haven't yet. It's as accurate as they come. If you see your stations in the "yellow" or closer, a good outdoor antenna will get them. If they are in the red, adding a preamp to a high-gain outdoor antenna will probably do the trick. Purple will be tougher but occasionally doable with a strong antenna and preamp setup.

TVFool uses precise, address-specific info to find your GPS coordinates and maps that against terrain and the broadcast towers, and it's by far the best tool out there.
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