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Old 07-08-2007, 07:49 PM   #41
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:12 PM   #42
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And that would be different than all my other friends how??
We can smell worse.

It wouldnt be advisable to challenge me on this matter.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:09 PM   #43
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I just built a desktop using suggestions from this forum, and couldn't be happier. I watched slickdeals and fry's ad's for about 2 weeks and put together a system(using my old monitor) for less than $250 (provided the rebates come through). The core2 duo 4300 CPU is super - allowing me to run batch jobs on one CPU pegged and a game on the other pegged, but with good response on both.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:51 AM   #44
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I feel so left out. Before ERing I'd be so into this thread. Now after 1 Gateway and 1 Dell (with minor upgrades video card 2nd hard drive), I have no desire to build my own rig. Part of it Hawaii sucks for building your on PC, part of it 8 years is 4 or 5 generations in PC land, so I read the tech specs and feel like I am I am reading an poem written by Chaucer.

But just to support my buddy CFB...

death to any AMD infidels, welcome Mac converts.
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I know, the new stuff is coming at us pretty quick, aint it?

Intel even has a processor out that Dell and a couple of others are using, and it appears Intel doesnt even know about it... :

Google "intel T5470" and then go to the intel.com site and look for it on the cpu charts or spec pages. Not there.

It does however make for a nice $599 laptop, the new "dell vostro", which seems to be a replacement for the Inspiron line in the small business area.
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And your rig aint complete unless you've got one of these on it!

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And your rig aint complete unless you've got one of these on it!
Looks like Laurence is going to want a bigger, er, power supply after all...
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Considering my wife just had a baby and the office is in the bedroom, that will go over reaaaaly well!

I hope to complete the build tomorrow, I'll post some pics then.

My MOBO is supposed to be great for overclocking, but that's not something that's really interested me. However, things have gotten so slick with this, my BIOS now allows me to choose a level and it does all the work for me. I can choose private (1% overclock) seargant (3%) all the way up to general (10%) and commander (15%). It's tempting, but is it really worth it? Sure, I bought high end components (kingston RAM etc.) but what does a man profit if he moves his core 2 duo from 2.13 Mhz to 2.35 Mhz and risks shortening the lifespan?
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:35 AM   #49
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Honestly, you wont see much difference. The memory will probably crap out before the processor will, or you'll get weird little timing problems.
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I think the true question here..........When will the Sith Lords Restoration Project Team, finish the mods to restore all the lost content to Knights of the Old Republic II!
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:15 PM   #51
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We can smell worse.

It wouldnt be advisable to challenge me on this matter.
I suppose you want us to believe that's an AMD in your bag?
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I've never been a fan of overclocking. At best you gain a couple hundred dollars in performance you'd have gotten by buying a faster chip. At worst you fry it and get to buy a new one anyway.
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Truth be told, I bought one once. Way back in the 1994ish range I bought a desktop with a 100mhz pentium equivalent...I think it was a k5? I wouldnt have done it but the company had just stopped selling us PC's at cost and I was feeling rebellious.

It sucked. Weak FPU, slow overall performance and hot. Caught fire just before it could bite me.
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I've had several AMDs, and have been very pleased with them all. But right now, the Core2Duo is the unquestioned better processor.

Even AMD realizes they are behind. Read somewhere recently that they were considering getting out of the CPU race.
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I've had several AMDs, and have been very pleased with them all

So you operate a fire extinguisher manufacturing company then?
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So you operate a fire extinguisher manufacturing company then?
Too funny

But hey, that was one of the good things about my old HP desktop. If I had to keep working I could keep my lunch warm just by setting it on the tower.
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Did it ever eat your lunch?

Should I point out a couple of other frightening causative factors?

HP picks up AMD processors...goes into a 5 year slide.

Dell picks up AMD processors, announces financial and market share losses.

Hmmm...might be advisable for all the other manufacturers to avoid this...
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used the overclock EZ menu in the BIOS, crashed my computer at the highest setting, getting LOWER ratings via 3DMark on the moderate settings. The base performance is right there with the people bragging on line, so I will be avoiding the overclock route.

I need to post a picture, the case looks scary (got a gamer case, all dark blue neon-type). I've been playing F.E.A.R. which is scarying the bejeazus out of me! But I can have the settings maxed out and not even start to work the system!
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Did it ever eat your lunch?

Should I point out a couple of other frightening causative factors?

HP picks up AMD processors...goes into a 5 year slide.

Dell picks up AMD processors, announces financial and market share losses.

Hmmm...might be advisable for all the other manufacturers to avoid this...
I want to point out that Intel did not put all of its marketing folks through a course on spreading FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt.) No we merely recruited those who had a natural talent for spewing it.

Well done, CFB.

For what it is worth, while I never bought an AMD processor. Not only did own a Mac, but I used it in the office for creating datasheets for Intel microprocessors.
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I used to buy AMD all the time. I also used to build all of my own machines. then I bought an HP laptop with AMD's newest chip. this corresponded with writing my book.

The stupid thing kept overheating and crashing. Nothing like losing a chapter =/

After several go-rounds with BBY service (very helpful the whole way I might add, but then I was an employee so...), HP managed to lose some of my components in-transit and so BBY gave me credit towards a new machine. I went Toshiba/Intel then and haven't looked back since... running a Gateway tablet now with an Intel chip.
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