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Old 10-06-2011, 03:09 PM   #1
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Are all of our problems solved?

I'm surprised we haven't been hearing about the Italian cold fusion demonstration I just read about on SLashdot. Yeah, I know, we've been here before. Nevertheless, if the Italians actually deliver on their "claims to fuse hydrogen and nickel into copper, with no radioactive by-products, to produce copious amounts of heat, inexpensively, with a 1 megawatt plant scheduled to come on line later this month" well -- wow!

Is it different this time?
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Is it different this time?
Who was it posting a comment a couple of days ago that a sudden and dramatic technological discovery comes along once in a while that completely changes the game?

However...before I start celebrating I'm going to wait and see if this guy's claim he's developed a means that "could provide for all of the world's energy needs reliably, cheaply, cleanly, and safely" can be demonstrated to actually work.
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They laughed at Pons and Fleischmann too.


Oh wait. They were right to do so.
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Who was it posting a comment a couple of days ago that a sudden and dramatic technological discovery comes along once in a while that completely changes the game?.
P.T. Barnum?

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However...before I start celebrating I'm going to wait and see if this guy's claim he's developed a means that "could provide for all of the world's energy needs reliably, cheaply, cleanly, and safely" can be demonstrated to actually work.
No, no! The time to invest is NOW, before everyone see's it work
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They laughed at Pons and Fleischmann too.


Oh wait. They were right to do so.

+1 You are SO right.
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Who was it posting a comment a couple of days ago that a sudden and dramatic technological discovery comes along once in a while that completely changes the game?
True, but then Steve Jobs died.

I think someone in Italy needs to focus on a dramatic financial discovery so it doesn't follow Greece....
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As long as we are wondering about impossible things

In the "bigger than cold fusion" category, Charles Krauthammer (who usually POs me on political topics) has a very good piece in today's Washington Post on CERN's faster than light nuetrinos that have the entire scientific community quaking in their boots. He really captures the earth shaking dimensions of the findings (if true). They are highlighted by his opening joke and concluding lines:

“We don’t allow faster-than-light neutrinos in here,” says the bartender.
A neutrino walks into a bar.

- Joke circulating on the Internet...


...But there must be some error. Because otherwise everything changes. We shall need a new physics. A new cosmology. New understandings of past and future, of cause and effect. Then shortly and surely, new theologies.


Why? Because we can’t have neutrinos getting kicked out of taverns they have not yet entered."
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In the "bigger than cold fusion" category, Charles Krauthammer (who usually POs me on political topics) has a very good piece in today's Washington Post on CERN's faster than light nuetrinos that have the entire scientific community quaking in their boots. He really captures the earth shaking dimensions of the findings (if true). They are highlighted by his opening joke and concluding lines:

“We don’t allow faster-than-light neutrinos in here,” says the bartender.
A neutrino walks into a bar.

- Joke circulating on the Internet
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...But there must be some error. Because otherwise everything changes. We shall need a new physics. A new cosmology. New understandings of past and future, of cause and effect. Then shortly and surely, new theologies.


Why? Because we can’t have neutrinos getting kicked out of taverns they have not yet entered."
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"We don't allow faster-than-light neutrinos in here," said the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar.

Particles Found to Travel Faster than Speed of Light: Scientific American
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Now the big question: Did it arrive here before it left HI?
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See? The ER Forum has it's own portal into tomorrow. I wonder if my ISP will charge extra for our use of faster-than-light neutrinos.

I wish I could get tomorrow's stock market report right now . . .
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Now the big question: Did it arrive here before it left HI?
By "here" do you mean Texas? Not sure it's reached there yet. Can't comment further (political joke opportunity)

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See? The ER Forum has it's own portal into tomorrow. I wonder if my ISP will charge extra for our use of faster-than-light neutrinos.
Well, if your ISP is anything like mine they'll charge even before the faster-than-light neutrinos arrive...
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The theory must be true. I knew you were going to post that before you actually did!
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"We don't allow faster-than-light neutrinos in here," said the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar.
I laughed when I saw that first posted. But when I went to repeat it, I realized it doesn't 'work'.

If the neutrino traveled faster than light, than he/it would be at the bar ahead of the light. So the bartender could not see the neutrino until after he/it got there. So it doesn't make sense, but it isn't funny the other way either.

OK, I know, it's a joke. But geek jokes have to stand up to geek analysis, because that is what we do.

Anyhow, the cold fusion links I read were shockingly un-scientific 'it got very hot'? My skepticism is ratcheted up a notch, and the air is getting pretty thin up here.


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OK, I know, it's a joke. But geek jokes have to stand up to geek analysis, because that is what we do.

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That was my reaction also, sorta huhn? But maybe the neutrino drifted into the future so the bartender saw it before it arrived?
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Here's a recent news story for those interested in the seemingly-faster-than-light neutrinos affair.
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The OPERA collaboration, which made headlines around the world last month when it announced that it had apparently observed neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light, has decided that it will carry out a new set of very precise measurements in order to check its controversial result.
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Many also did not take Nikola Tesla seriously.
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True. Where would we be today without his broadcast energy system?
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True. Where would we be today without his broadcast energy system?
Shhhhhhh.

For years, I've been powering my house with it, for free.

The trick is in the receiver.
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...... Italians actually deliver on their "claims to fuse hydrogen and nickel into copper, with no radioactive by-products, to produce copious amounts of heat, inexpensively, with a 1 megawatt plant scheduled to come on line later this month" well -- wow!

Is it different this time?

Can't give any details until after the patent is issued.
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