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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
Old 07-05-2005, 07:22 PM   #181
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
Old 07-05-2005, 07:32 PM   #182
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You know that game you play where you put your hands on top of another guys, yours palms down and his palms up, and he tries to slap the back of your hand?

Your hands look like catchers mitts at this point. And a couple of times you took one right across the face while you werent paying attention.

Quit while you merely look stupid.
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
Old 07-05-2005, 07:40 PM   #183
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!

Actually, we'll be discussing the impact of illegal aliens on the health care and criminal justice systems in this thread. The fact that this drives you up a wall is its own reward. Didn't you say you were done with me twice before? Just can't stay away, can you?
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
Old 07-05-2005, 08:17 PM   #185
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
Old 07-05-2005, 08:25 PM   #186
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You're just confusing Art with facts. He's not interested in them. He listens to Rush Limbaugh and his mind is made up.

It amazes me that we are even discussing illegal aliens. - It's probably about #500 in critical problems facing this country. I wonder what Art thinks about $500 Billion deficeits and wars that don't need to be fought!
I agree Art is a a bit fixated, but "#500"?? I think not.

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SG and TH,

You're just confusing Art with facts. He's not interested in them. He listens to Rush Limbaugh and his mind is made up.

It amazes me that we are even discussing illegal aliens. - It's probably about #500 in critical problems facing this country. I wonder what Art thinks about $500 Billion deficeits and wars that don't need to be fought!
Hi Cut-Throat,

You're right, of course. I had decided to quit after Art's post that told us he would not be swayed by reasonable cost/benefit analysis. He simply wanted to stop immigration from Mexico at any cost.

But then I got interested in how hard it would be to actually do reasonable research on the topic. It was pretty easy. . . and interesting, so I posted the results.

I don't expect to affect Art's opinion. He is clearly driven by irrational fears and unaffected by data or logic.
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I don't expect to affect Art's opinion.*
Don't be so sure. You may be surprised. I'm going to continue to keep an open mind and post what I believe to be credible sources that show the negative impact of illegal immigration. But if it becomes clear that I am wrong and this is NOT a serious problem, I won't be afraid to admit it.

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. . . I'm going to continue to keep an open mind and post what I believe to be credible sources that show the negative impact of illegal immigration. But if it becomes clear that I am wrong and this is NOT a serious problem, I won't be afraid to admit it.


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Re: Are illegal immigrants a serious problem or not?
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Re: Are illegal immigrants a serious problem or not?

Isnt it though? He's already been presented with overwhelming facts and data, but has yet to even begin to change his mind.

Up until yesterday I wasnt sure if he was a troll or just an idiot. Now I know.
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Up until yesterday I wasnt sure if he was a troll or just an idiot.* Now I know.
The answer is................drum roll please.....................BOTH
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Ding! Ding! Ding! (you know the rest...)...
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Re: Are illegal immigrants a serious problem or not?

Let's take this puppy (or maybe it's a kitty - it seems to have 9 lives) a totally different direction.

Kinky Friedman, the humorist currently running for Governor of Texas, has a plan to deal with illegal immigration on the Texas border. The San Antonio paper described one of his book-signings/stump speeches as follows:

He calls one proposal "the five Mexican generals plan," his strategy to curtail undocumented immigration. That's one that gets incredulous stares.

"We divide 679 miles of border into five jurisdictions," Friedman explained to the fans at the book-signing, leaving unexplained why he wouldn't apply it to all 1,300 miles of the Texas-Mexico border. "To each jurisdiction we appoint a Mexican general."

"To each of them, we hold $1 million in a bank account ... And we withdraw $5,000 every time we catch an illegal alien coming through his jurisdiction."

To break the ensuing silence, Friedman asserted, "Folks, this will work."


Some think Kinky actually has a chance... 8)

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met....3dfc3aa4.html

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Re: Are illegal immigrants a serious problem or not?

Need I remind everyone - that back in the good old days - the U.S. spent big bucks deploying something like 5000 troops to catch Geranimo.

I believe the 2nd Lt who talked him into coming in - was never promoted.

A solution or workable idea - well - sometimes people just get pissed at the blindingly obvious - especially if will cost them 'turf' or or money - as in making their jobs obsolete.

Expect difficulty.

Rats!!! got suckered in again!
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Let's take this puppy (or maybe it's a kitty - it seems to have 9 lives) a totally different direction.

Kinky Friedman, the humorist currently running for Governor of Texas, has a plan to deal with illegal immigration on the Texas border.* The San Antonio paper described one of his book-signings/stump speeches as follows:

He calls one proposal "the five Mexican generals plan," his strategy to curtail undocumented immigration. That's one that gets incredulous stares.

"We divide 679 miles of border into five jurisdictions," Friedman explained to the fans at the book-signing, leaving unexplained why he wouldn't apply it to all 1,300 miles of the Texas-Mexico border. "To each jurisdiction we appoint a Mexican general."

"To each of them, we hold $1 million in a bank account ... And we withdraw $5,000 every time we catch an illegal alien coming through his jurisdiction."

To break the ensuing silence, Friedman asserted, "Folks, this will work."


Some think Kinky actually has a chance... 8)

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met....3dfc3aa4.html

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I never heard of "Kinky". You made this all up, right?

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I never heard of "Kinky". You made this all up, right?
I don't make this stuff up. Not smart enough.

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I never heard of "Kinky". You made this all up, right?

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No JG, Kinky is for real. Google him. He doesn't have a chance to make governor of Texas, but he will make me interested in who does. He's funny, used to have a band called "The Texas JewBoys". I've heard him say, "If you don't love Jesus, you can just go to Hell." And that Immigration idea, he presented live on IMUS on MSNBC within the past 30 days or so. He's a comedian, a writer, an animal lover and he's really hot about somebody on death row down in Huntsville. Claims it's a bad conviction. He promised, that if we'd elect him, he'd spend most of his time in Las Vegas. He also says he thinks Gays should be allowed to marry, so they can be just as miserable as we are. I think he needs 50,000 signatures to get on the ballot. If you see the petition, send it to me. If Minnesota can elect a wrestler, maybe Texas can elect a funnyman. And even if we don't the campaign will be so much more interesting.
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Dory, out of an abundance of caution, I have emailed NewsMax to find out for sure whether or not I can post links to their Associated Press (copyrighted) articles on non-commercial websites.

If you want to see my email to them and their complete reply, just let me know. The relevant part is:

"Also, linking is not reprinting. You can link to anything on the web you want to, no matter what anyone tells you. (This is in NO WAY meant to imply that YOUR instructions were inaccurate in any way... it was THEIR instructions that I needed clarification on- Art).

By that I mean, you can take a URL, like this:

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With the above in mind, I will, from time to time, post links to Associated Press (copyrighted) stories that are usually spiked by the liberal media, but get some play in NewsMax.
To all and any: This topic started with a long cut-and-paste article on illegal immigrants. As a relative newbie to this site, I assumed that long posts were the norm on this site, and I followed with shorter but still fairly long posts of my own. I learned later that this isn't the preferred behavior, and I will of course comply.

As part of good e-citizenship I'll also stop assuming that just because someone else does a particular thing, that it's ok.

Accordingly, can someone please tell me the theory behind the "other topics" thread we're on here? Is that generally understood to be "other topics about anything in the world" or "other topics with some clear relationship to Early Retirement, that don't fall under the other headings?"

Any clarification would be most helpful.

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