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Old 07-02-2005, 02:34 PM   #41
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Drug them out with sugar doughnuts and cow them with hopes of a govt. pension - submission can be bought.

Reminds me of the Borg - resistance is futile.

Of course once we win - then what?
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Re: Numbnuts thinks ILLEGAL aliens are good for us!
Old 07-02-2005, 03:04 PM   #42
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BTW, TH, I believe this is a masterful demonstration of reverse trolling. You've incited Art to new "heights" of fervent posting in an attempt to refute your critiques. How does one judge the success of your tactic? By the ratio of Art's words to your question (no doubt a number well into three-four digits)? By the ratio of the number of hours of his life he's wasted on your few seconds of ripostes? (Another big number.) By the quality of the ensuing "dialogue"? (Let's not go there.) By the total number of days it takes Art to flame out in a spectacular "Farewell" rant? By that Usenet classic indicator, the number of posts it takes for the word "Nazi" to surface?
Thank you, I do try to do my best work at all times.

I believe I hit home runs on all counts, since Art not only used almost as many cuss words as Ed Teach did, he also mentioned nazi's, blew out thousands of meaningless words that either undercut his position or pointed out that it was just trolling via sensationalism, but lastly...we ended up talking about abusing my butt again.

What is it with trolls and my ass? :
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Gosh, this thread almost (but not quite!) makes one long for another dearly departed poster. But at least H**** had the initiative to author his own 20 paragraph posts and not rely on simply coyping and pasting to achive the volume.
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Yeah, you have to give old hocoloco a couple of nods, he was a very good troll and quite the little energizer bunny of one at that.

I thought at first that old Artie actually had something. He seemed so strong in his convictions. I was almost disappointed that he's just reading tabloid web sites and sensationalist books by neo celebrities trying to make money off of the headlines. But then he turned into a rather fun little troll, so all was not lost.
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Edited to mention that I just finished reading the rest of the board's posts and belatedly realized that "Numbnuts" isn't Art's fond presidential pejorative.

I gotta admit, Art, your skillful use of cute anatomical nicknames does make your arguments more convincing.
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Thank you, I do try to do my best work at all times.

I believe I hit home runs on all counts, since Art not only used almost as many cuss words as Ed Teach did, he also mentioned nazi's, blew out thousands of meaningless words that either undercut his position or pointed out that it was just trolling via sensationalism, but lastly...we ended up talking about abusing my butt again.

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Art not only used almost as many cuss words as Ed Teach did, he also mentioned nazi's, blew out thousands of meaningless words that either undercut his position or pointed out that it was just trolling via sensationalism, but lastly...we ended up talking about abusing my butt again.
Th, I know you never went to college and your short-term memory is shot, so let me try to break this down for you once more.

I did not use any cuss words. You are the only one on the board with the incredible class to refer to BJs, not me. No "cuss words" from me... unless you consider "screwed, blued and tattoed" to be cuss words- but you can't be that much of a wuss, can you? I guess, maybe you can.

I never mentioned Nazis. You called me, and anyone else who opposes illegal immigration, a racist, but other than that, you pulled "Nazis", along with so much more, out of your notorious biohazard- the source of all your wisdom and power.

If your reading comprehension was at least that of a typical seventh-grader, you would see that I gave more than enough credible info to support the radical notion that "legal immigration is good, illegal immigration is bad".

Most seventh-graders would be able to figure this out without any third-party proof. But then, most seventh-graders would also be able to figure out that China represses its people through violence and threats of violence, as all authoritarian regimes do. It's a shame you never took any history classes in high school. It's a shame you never graduated from high school.

But you are, seriously, an ignoramus and an idiot, and these ideas, and the massive volume of references to support them, are beyond you, which is why I quit copying and pasting after 10 minutes. (Nords, if you think I'd waste hours responding to this moron, you're not much brighter than he is. Run silent, run deep, ensign... just try not to hit those seamounts!)

And I suggest that anyone who still doubts that th is a complete and total liar (while accusing anyone who disagrees with him of being a liar or a racist) check his google keywords that supposedly back up his phony "80%+" medical statistic mentioned earlier in this thread:

'twenty percent eighty percent chronic insurance'

Zip. Zero. Nada. When it comes to numbnuts and his posts, it's always the same: nothing but nothing but bull****. There's a cuss word for you, dude.





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Here I am, nearly a thousand miles from home, waiting out a thunderstorm. But I can still look at my puppies with tp.



Is it a bad thing to use your laptop with cell phone, battery only, during a thunderstorm?
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Thanks, Martha, for saving the day!!
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But you are, seriously, an ignoramus and an idiot, and these ideas, and the massive volume of references to support them, are beyond you, which is why I quit copying and pasting after 10 minutes.
Art, let me dispense with my usual subtlety & sarcastic humor for a few minutes.

You need to lighten up. You can make a powerful point without having to resort to vocabulary like that. The fact that you feel the need to resort to those words tends to reduce the validity of whatever point you're trying to make. Others have been trying to demonstrate that with their responses to your posts but you keep taking the bait instead of letting your persuasive writing stand on its own merits.

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Run silent, run deep, ensign... just try not to hit those seamounts!)
Nice touch with one of the worst American submarine disasters in decades. I'm sure your sentiments are shared by MM2 Ashley's family, friends, & shipmates.

As far as I can see from your posting record, you're in the same company with Ted, EdTeach, *****, & Hyperborea. Good talking with you, and you have a nice life now.

Dory, it's time for you to do the moderator thing!
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Nice touch with one of the worst American submarine disasters in decades.* I'm sure your sentiments are shared by MM2 Ashley's family, friends, & shipmates.
Can't let you get away with that one, Nords.

There was NO disrespect intended towards the victims of that disaster. Period. I have TREMENDOUS respect for ALL present and former members of our military (including you, despite your occasionally brain-dead posts), especially those killed or injured while serving, and I'm sorry if you misunderstood my point. It was meant as nothing more than a jibe at your silly previous post, demonstrating your shoot first, aim second attack style- nothing else.

Now, you have a nice life too, Nords.
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Hmmmm

Might be an age thing - I've observed sugar doughnuts mellow out - spy guys (that other agency), DEA, and FBI types on govt pensions who have retired to certain doughnut shops. Agrument is a form of entertainment - me being the 'token liberal'.

And we've never been thrown out for being too loud or vulgar - ten years and counting.

Heh, heh, heh - some drugs are legal AND don't require a prescription.

Sugar doughnut anyone?

Being a liberal and in the minority - I go for the creme, custard, and jelly filled pastry.
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Art, let me dispense with my usual subtlety & sarcastic humor for a few minutes.

You need to lighten up.* You can make a powerful point without having to resort to vocabulary like that.* The fact that you feel the need to resort to those words tends to reduce the validity of whatever point you're trying to make.* Others have been trying to demonstrate that with their responses to your posts but you keep taking the bait instead of letting your persuasive writing stand on its own merits.
Nords, you're right about this. I'll work on it.
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C'mon guys. How about cooling it, huh?
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Let's fire the Border Patrol, Close the INS, and declare our borders open to all!

Well, I may not favor that idea but . . .

Today, people from South of the Border will risk their lives to walk across miles of barren dessert. They will pay dangerous coyotes hundreds of dollars to take them accross the border. The coyotes are dangerous men who are known to double-cross and kill many of their customers. People believe that living and working in the US will improve their lives so much that they are willing to take these risks and pay these fees. There is much to be said about such motivation. One solution to the illegal alien issue is to make it easier and cheaper to cross the border legally. Let's bring these highly motivated people over here to work. And by making it legal, we will insure that we know who they are, where they are and that they pay appropriate taxes, social security, medicare . . .
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Lets just buy up all the shoe companies in mexico. No shoes, I figure they arent going to be able to make that border crossing.

Problem solved. Now all I need to do is secure a few million in grants from anti immigration PACs, do a 'study', publish some favorable results, and back to early retirement a little more flush with cash.
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I live in Arizona and have spent quite a bit of time hiking and working in the dessert on both sides of the US-Mexican border. *There is about 1000 miles of border in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. *Much of that border is nothing more than a 3-strand barbed wire fence in the middle of many miles of barren dessert. *

People who talk about "closing the border" or about increasing inforcement to "stop illegal crossing" are naive and misguided. *The cost of an impenetrable barrier would be astronomical. *(If you don't believe this, we can go through the process of estimating cost and prove this very quickly).

So . . . here are some questions to ponder: *

How does anyone know how many illegal aliens cross our border each year?

How does anyone know how much crime, disease, etc. these people are responsible for?

How much critical labor are they responsible for?

How does this ratio of good/bad effects compare to any other particular part of our population?

What percentage of these illegals would we need stop in order to satisfy the people who think they are harmful?

How much would it cost us to reduce the crossings to acceptable amounts?

If someone were really serious about illegal immigration, it seems to me that they would need (and want) to answer the questions above. *Then we could have a legitimate conversation. *
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People who talk about "closing the border" or about increasing inforcement to "stop illegal crossing" are naive and misguided. *The cost of an impenetrable barrier would be astronomical.
So why, exactly, do you not support the removal of the Border Patrol and the opening of our borders to everyone?
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So why, exactly, do you not support the removal of the Border Patrol and the opening of our borders to everyone?
The Border Patrol does a reasonable job of controling/monitoring commerce. While it's nearly impossible to stop an individual from walking across the border at some remote spot in the dessert, it's not that hard to keep a truck load of contraband from driving across.
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