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Old 02-23-2010, 11:10 PM   #21
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Looking back, it's actually pretty funny. I recall the called kept on wanting me to buy the coupon book. Eventually, he'd do the fake contest thing but I incorrectly answered about three questions. Finally, he gave an easy sports one. Being young, I didn't know better and really thought I won something.

At least the coupons weren't bogus. One Sunday night I was totally broke (college budget) and the dorms didn't serve meals on Sunday's.
The light bulb turned on and I searched through that coupon book and found one for an Arby's sandwich. When you are starving, an Arby's sandwich surely did hit the spot
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Old 02-23-2010, 11:28 PM   #22
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As a lawyer I sometimes have to represent people I would rather not have anything to do with - usually because I just don't like them rather than because I have problems with their eithics.

Some of the things I have caused me some distress were mortgagee sales early in my career and reprepsenting people who were fighting either civil or criminal charges. I had more problems with the former than the latter although in most cases the eventualy outcomes were the "right" outcomes.

Occasionally I get some pretty dubious transactions put in front of me. If the would be client cannot give a rational explanation for the transaction, I turn it away.

I did refuse to work on an advertising campaign for a tobacco company (and would do so again).

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Old 02-23-2010, 11:33 PM   #23
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I have not had an occasion to "trade my principle for pay", per the thread title. Hence, I do not yet know how high my price would be.

However, I remember this quote.
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them, well, I have others" - Groucho Marx.
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Old 02-24-2010, 04:19 AM   #24
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When I was 19 I replied to an ad looking for someone to 'clean carpets' for 800/mo. It turned out the job was to be a sales weasel for a couple of Kirby Vacuum Cleaner franchise holders.

The first thing we did was set up a table in front of a local grocery store, where people could register to win a free side of beef. No one won the beef, but everyone won second prize - a free carpet cleaning! Of course that was just a sales call. I quit as soon as I realized what was going on.
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:17 AM   #25
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The first thing we did was set up a table in front of a local grocery store, where people could register to win a free side of beef. No one won the beef, but everyone won second prize - a free carpet cleaning! Of course that was just a sales call. I quit as soon as I realized what was going on.
This scam is still going on. State fair - I signed up to win a John Deere riding mower/tractor. Didn't win it, but got a sales call a few months later telling me I had won a consolation prize, a free installation of a home security system (a $350 value!). And only $49/month thereafter or something... 2 year minimum contract.
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Any chance you have a link to an actual DoD or Navy public document with these conclusions? I am currently trying to convince my CEO that $$$ is the only think that will prevent a mass exodus from the company; but, he hasn't bought it so far.
No joy, although I did find this:

SWO, sub communities face midgrade officer gap - Navy News, news from Iraq - Navy Times

“Though officer retention rates have generally increased, there remain select shortfalls in the control grades,” he wrote, referring to aggregate numbers across all the officer communities. “Commander and lieutenant commander inventories are below requirements; though, for the first time in many years, unrestricted line captain inventory exceeds officer programmed authorizations. Special and incentive pays and quality of life initiatives remain the primary tools to reduce these shortfalls.”

The submarine service is also seeing control-grade shortages. Ferguson said goals were met only once in the past five years, adding that the force is short 452 critical billets Navy-wide.

And while the Navy is short SWOs and submariners, aviators are thick in the control grades because of a longer initial obligation after winging — eight years — and an aviation bonus that takes an officer to 14 years. Also, turbulence in the airline industry has tightened up a traditional exit for military aviators.

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