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Old 02-03-2016, 05:32 PM   #41
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I have a friend who's very handy and did his entire kitchen.

I think it took over a year and was a bit tough on the marriage.......hey, golf takes priority!
We already did the kitchen. 3 years! But the price was right and everything is exactly how I wanted it and custom to the space. In his defense - the kitchen was only non-functional for 3 days when the old sink/counter were removed until the new stainless counters were installed and another 2 days when we'd removed the old cooktop for the new bertazoni oven/range. That was an advantage of keeping most of the cabinets - just refinishing them. He built custom additions to the cabinets as well.
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And we've never missed the tub, although I've still got it tucked into my shop - thought about using it as a hot tub and building a frame to mount it on the deck.
Or get a second one and do whatever those people are doing in the Cialis commercial!
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Consider a heated tile floor. They are great.

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Go to the GardenWeb forums now at Houzz to ask bathroom remodeling questions:

That Home Site! Forums - GardenWeb

(It is also a great forum for kitchen remodels and for house buying/selling).

One thing to do is possibly talk to a designer and get ideas. For example it might make sense to move some stuff around, that kind of thing. Also post a sketch or your picture on gardenweb and get ideas.

If you are replacing countertops you might want to replace dated sinks and faucets and possibly lighting. Since you are taking out a large tub (which I agree with), if you don't have adequate storage in your bathroom, you might have room for a built in large linen cabinet or some other storage or built in hampers, that kind of thing.

If you are replacing with a larger shower some other options include:

1. Rain shower head (on the ceiling).

2. Possibly making it a 2 person shower with 2 sets of shower heads.

3. Built in bench.

4. Also maybe a shower massage panel.

Oh, another thing. If replacing countertops, look carefully at your cabinets. Do they need to be replaced? Are they laid out how you want them? Now is the time to change them if there is anything you want different. If the cabs are painted do you want to change color? Same thing with your mirror. If you want to change anything now is the time.
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Wow - those are pretty long time frames for the DIY remodels! I did our bathroom in about 5 weeks. Phase 1 was removing soffits, doing electrical/lighting/exhaust fan work, and drywalling where the soffits used to be. Took about a week and a half. Phase 2 was removing tile and walls from shower, removing old (cast iron) tub, installing new tub, walls, and tile. Took about 2 weeks. Phase 3 was floor, vanity, toilet, etc. Took about a week.
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We decided against a heated tile floor because I wanted instant heat. We ended up installing one of those ceiling light, vent, heater combos and it works great in our fairly small 12' x 5' bathroom. I love it most during those cold trips to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Now I just have to make sure I don't fall asleep on the toilet because I am so warm & toasty.
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I did two upstairs bath remodels a little over a year or so ago. One was the original master (prior to a downstairs master addition over 17 years ago) and one was the children's bath. So one was a decent size (10 x 12ish), and the children's bath was small (5 X 8).
For the old Master, it was a total gut job. Goal was to get a larger shower in there but still have a tub although a smaller one. Cost was $16,373. That included porcelain tile on floors and walls up to the window sills, new double sink counter, granite counter tops, granite tub surround (did not want grout lines and it is on same wall and tied into the counter so it flowed better), new smaller tub, new faucets and shower fixtures including hand held, frameless shower door with knee wall, new taller toilet, etc.

The smaller bath was also a total gut. Goal was to get a larger shower. I removed the Aquaglass acrylic tub shower and went back with just a shower (3 X 5) . Same porcelain tile on floors and walls, granite on new single sink counter, new toilet, new fixtures. Total cost was $10,253.

I had a quote from a Kitchen/Bath Remodeling company for the smaller 6 x 8 ft second bath which exceeded $20,000 and was more than I had paid for the larger bath. So I opted to do it the same way I did the first bath which
was :

I had a contractor …sort of…but not a contract or even a proposal. He was a friend of my brother's but is a Class A contractor that builds homes. I say sort of because I ended up doing a lot of the running around and scheduling of the other subs…which saved some money since my "sort of" contractor didn't do it. It's not for everyone and it is why I almost had the other company do the second one until I heard the price. Since he was using my jobs as filler jobs it took way longer than I had hoped. Months and months! It's also why I have not yet done the downstairs Master, although that is not in as bad shape as these upstairs baths were in. I'll get to it …one day!

In addition to all the helpful hints others have given you, if you are going to do this, I recommend going with the taller cabinet height (34 inch to 35 inch with counter top) if you replace the cabinet. I did this in my downstairs master and loved not having to bend over as far.

Instead of the traditional mud pan, I ended up going with a contractor (my brothers friend) who installed the Schulter System for tiled showers as I was convinced it is the best way to keep moisture from cracking shower floors and having moisture problems later with any of the tiles in the shower.
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All of that said, as others have said, your bath looks nice as is!
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DW and I are planning a master bath remodel later this year after we both retire (will try to some of the work myself). Like many others commenting in this thread, we're considering eliminating the Jacuzzi tub and going with just one big shower. But, we do worry that the lack of a tub in the master bath could impact resale value. Any thoughts on this?


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Wow - those are pretty long time frames for the DIY remodels!
Tell me about it. LOL.

His excuse - hey - he's retired too.... Maņana is good enough.
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I feel your pain, moving into a new place in 3 weeks so haven't been able to price it out but saw online someone putting out an "all-in" price of $8900 for standard bathroom remodel tub to shower conversion, new vanity, double sink, new floor, but I'm sure that means no changes in plumbing.

For me, no shower is complete without seat, niches for the goodies, double shower head so you have the handheld just in case you break your leg (seat/handleheld come in handy). I prefer the prefab floors, I've had a few friends complain about the tiled showers being difficult ot clean and not necessarily comfortable on the feet. One put in pebble floor and ended up with a mat in the shower because it was painful to his feet.
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We decided against a heated tile floor because I wanted instant heat. We ended up installing one of those ceiling light, vent, heater combos and it works great in our fairly small 12' x 5' bathroom. I love it most during those cold trips to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Now I just have to make sure I don't fall asleep on the toilet because I am so warm & toasty.
We had a heater/fan/light in our original newly wed single floor, 2 small bedroom - 1 bath. The bath was a shed added on the house and was COLD. I can remember leaving the faucets trickle on the coldest nights to keep the pipes from freezing and finding ice in the sink. The kids showed up and 28 years ago we did a near total reconstruction to a 2 floor, 3 bedroom - 2 1/2 bath. Influenced by our prior experiences we installed wall mounted fan heaters in the two full baths. The master bath one is perfectly placed to warm the bath towel.
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My only real suggestion is to make sure you get taller toilets. I've replaced our old ones in both of our houses, and any time I go to a friend's or a hotel or whatever, I always feel like I'm falling over when I sit down. I'm not joking, they're great.
+1 the extra 3" of height is so much luxury for so little extra. I'm not due to remodel for many more years, and if/when I do the only other thing I'd consider is a TOTO toilet - like in Japan. Heated seats are ridiculously awesome.
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Wrt to shower glass, glass is porous and that clouding is etched into the glass and will never ever come out. We have elected to pay (~$90/sq ft IIRC) for a product called Diamond Fusion. It's applied once by the glass folks and makes the glass much less porous. We put in a pony wall, but still have some glass on the upper part. You still need to clean it, but not like regular glass...we'll see.
thanks TrvBug.. did a little searching on the Diamon Fusion and found this from one of their reps... I want to learn more.sounds like a pretty good solution....

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I am a representative from Diamon-Fusion International. Sorry for the late
response, we just learned of this site and the postings here so I hope it?s ok
if I answer some of the what seems like are the most confusing points when
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-Diamon-Fusion? is a low-maintenance, not a no-maintenance coating for
silica-based surfaces (glass, ceramic, porcelain, tile, granite, and quartz).
Using most brand name window cleaners on the market to clean DFI treated glass
is harmful because they are acidic and harsh. Diamon-Fusion? is easily cleaned
with just mild soap and water, so harsh chemicals are never needed. Nothing
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revitalizers, or any mandated products to keep it working? need to be very
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-Diamon-Fusion? is a patented product. In a sea of questionable claims about
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-Diamon-Fusion? is typically professionally applied and therefore is not
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I like.....

1. a deep soaking tub (no jacuzzi); a two-person tub is good.
2. a two-person shower, separate shower heads and controls; at least one hand-held shower makes for easier cleaning
3. a bidet
4. a wall mounted towel warmer on a timer. Not for warming towels so much, rather, for drying towels and washcloths after use, or even for hand washables (in humid climates - not needed in dry climates).
5. heated floor would be nice
6. everything easy to clean. This means not too much grout. I wouldn't even mind a drain in the floor!
7. taller counters or vessel sinks; taller faucet for washing hair
8. big mirrors
9. skylight
10. thought-out outlet placement for blow dryer, electric toothbrush, night light, cords being out of the way
11. tall and deep linen closet

Also, I like some of these things in their own sections, with pocket doors. Everything all out in a big space means it's cold, not as warm and cozy.
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This forum is very timely, as I'm pretty much beat after 2 days of rebuilding the master bathroom in our new to us home. It's the second house we've bought that had carpet in the master bath. It took less than 15 minutes to get rid of the carpet.

Let me say that we're fortunate that our bath is very beautiful in styling. We don't use the Jacuzzi, however our 2 grandchildren use the tub all the time. And any house in this neighborhood is expected to have a spa tub.

I cringe at the costs mentioned previously for rebuilding baths. So far, I've gone through 11 sheets of 1/4" Wonderboard ($100), $22 for 2 bags of thinset mortar and $25 for screws. 150 square feet of porcelain tile will be $300, and it'll take another $22 for more thinset mortar and $12 for grout. We'll just say the total cost will be $500 for the re-do.

Once you get used to a tall and long toilet, going back to a standard toilet is just not enjoyable. I have removed the toilet and will be swapping it with
the American Standard Super toilet in our old house--5 minute job.

I would have liked to have put the heating strips in the floor, but we're too busy getting the rest of the house ready to move.

I am what you would call an advanced homeowner builder, and I'm always building something. I also just installed granite in the kitchen and 2 bathrooms of our lake house. I've also got to prime and paint 32 kitchen cabinet doors for the lake house.

Tomorrow, I intend to start laying the tile in the bathroom. It'll take me 2 days because I take time to properly lay out my tile and do the job the right way.

Don't think that laying tile in a bathroom is any big deal. I've found tile work to be relatively easy, and directions are all over UTube.com. The worst part is getting the tile supplies from the truck into the house.

If I was just going to be putting in a shower, I'd be putting in one that's 4' x 8' with a door on each end. Such a shower would require a custom built shower pan--which is no big deal.
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If I was just going to be putting in a shower, I'd be putting in one that's 4' x 8' with a door on each end.
That sounds awesome.
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If I was just going to be putting in a shower, I'd be putting in one that's 4' x 8' with a door on each end. Such a shower would require a custom built shower pan--which is no big deal.
Perfect for washing dogs and dirtbikes, too. In one end, out the other.
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If I was just going to be putting in a shower, I'd be putting in one that's 4' x 8' with a door on each end. Such a shower would require a custom built shower pan--which is no big deal.
In a shower that big, I'd want a built in bench and grab bar railings all down the whole 8'. Also maybe multiple shower heads, including one of those rain shower heads as well as a handheld one on a long hose. And as long as one is daydreaming, how about built in shelves for shampoo, soap, and such all along. Lots of bright lights inside the shower, too.
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Remodeled a few bathrooms (rentals) and switched to weti board backing along with wedi joint sealant (love it). A little more $$ but never any issues. Unlike sheet laminated foam boards or the traditional Cement backerboards, wedi Building Panels will not absorb water. Another change I started doing is making the soap/shampoo cubby a tall double wide, last shower added two of them.
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