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Aaron Rodgers 41 60.29%
Peyton Manning 9 13.24%
Tony Romo 1 1.47%
Tom Brady 12 17.65%
Philip Rivers 0 0%
Joe Flacco 0 0%
Drew Brees 0 0%
Ben Roethlisberger 0 0%
Andrew Luck 1 1.47%
Matt Ryan 0 0%
Other 4 5.88%
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Old 12-10-2014, 10:10 AM   #41
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Poor Tony Romo, everybody piles on. He is way better than people give credit and is a victim of media exposure that causes people to over scrutinize. Of course I would rather have Rodgers, but Romo is not chopped liver. People forget, even Roger Staubach lost final game as an 8 point favorite and ended his career in the playoffs throwing his last completed pass to an offensive lineman effectively ending the game and season.
FWIW- Tony Romo had the most comeback wins of all QB's for the combined 2011-13 seasons. Most people don't want to quote that stat. Nor will they know or mention through last year he had the highest 2 minute QB rating of all active quarterbacks and 4th highest since 1991.

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I've been a Broncos fan since their inception. I think Peyton is the master at on-field play calling, but he has not been as sharp in execution this year as his past years as a Bronco. I voted for Aaron Rogers. I would love to see a Super Bowl between the two teams.

2 mins. left in the game and needing to go 80 yards and score a TD, I'd take Elway over anyone that ever played the position.

I'd like to seeing Manning win one final SB, but I don't think it will happen for him. I think this year's SB champ is going to be a dark horse.

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If down by 7 points with not much time left, of the QB's to choose from on the list, I just wouldn't want Romo as the QB.
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If down by 7 points with not much time left, of the QB's to choose from on the list, I just wouldn't want Romo as the QB.
He doesn't do too well in "must win" games either!

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Poor Tony Romo, everybody piles on. He is way better than people give credit and is a victim of media exposure that causes people to over scrutinize. Of course I would rather have Rodgers, but Romo is not chopped liver. People forget, even Roger Staubach lost final game as an 8 point favorite and ended his career in the playoffs throwing his last completed pass to an offensive lineman effectively ending the game and season.
FWIW- Tony Romo had the most comeback wins of all QB's for the combined 2011-13 seasons. Most people don't want to quote that stat. Nor will they know or mention through last year he had the highest 2 minute QB rating of all active quarterbacks and 4th highest since 1991.

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That's because Manning's salary SUCKS THE LIFE out of the entire team. The team salary cap leaves nothing for defense. That's why Indy dropped him.
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They can just do what Jerry does, restructure a bunch of other contracts
How did that work out for him? The Cowboys are something like 138-138 over the past 17ish years.
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That's because Manning's salary SUCKS THE LIFE out of the entire team. The team salary cap leaves nothing for defense. That's why Indy dropped him.
That's not why Indy let Manning go. They let him go because they had a chance to get the next great QB that will be there for another 15 years. Going from one franchise QB straight to another one is next to impossible and you don't pass up the opportunity if you get it.
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That's not why Indy let Manning go. They let him go because they had a chance to get the next great QB that will be there for another 15 years. Going from one franchise QB straight to another one is next to impossible and you don't pass up the opportunity if you get it.
Totally agree. Packers did the same with Rodgers. They didn't need a quarterback that year, but when Thompson saw Rodgers still available at the 24th pick he pounced.

Still doesn't equal getting Brady in the 6th round though! That was magic.
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That's not why Indy let Manning go. They let him go because they had a chance to get the next great QB that will be there for another 15 years. Going from one franchise QB straight to another one is next to impossible and you don't pass up the opportunity if you get it.
+1. The neck injury was a huge unknown at the time Irsay had to make the decision. No one was anxious to see Manning go, not the fans and not the organization. It was a tough call...

I'm glad it seemed to work out for Denver & Indy both in the end.
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... Well - if I remember correctly - Manning had a $28 MILLION sign-on bonus with the Colts coming Friday ... they let him go Wednesday. Not coincidence ....
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... Well - if I remember correctly - Manning had a $28 MILLION sign-on bonus with the Colts coming Friday ... they let him go Wednesday. Not coincidence ....
No one involved ever suggested money wasn't a central issue, even at the time. Neither Manning nor Irsay were considered 'villains' at the time by most people. All parties were saddened by the decision, but they also understood why it had to be.
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In the weeks leading up to The Decision, Irsay and Manning talked. They discussed Manning's health and how much arm strength he had regained. At one point, Irsay floated the possibility of Manning restructuring his contract. In lieu of the team paying the $28 million option bonus that would be part of a four-year, $63.6 million deal, Manning would accept an incentive-laden package that would reward him if he made a full recovery.

But Manning had all the leverage and wouldn't restructure his contract. The Colts would have to pay him the roster bonus or cut him and allow him to sign a big contract with another team.
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How did that work out for him? The Cowboys are something like 138-138 over the past 17ish years.
Right, my comment was not intended to represent sound advice
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Well ... I am glad we settled this debate. Only question is: who is the best QB EVER:

Montana or
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Well ... I am glad we settled this debate. Only question is: who is the best QB EVER:

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I'm going with Johnny Unitas as the best ever.
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Most successful QB's on the field.... Let's see, in my football watching memory, there's Montana, Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Elway, Bradshaw, Farve, maybe Unitas and a few others. Hard to say, however, "one of the most successful QB's" off the field (measured in dollars) has to be Roger Staubach. He probably belongs on the best on the field too.
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Best ever is very subjective. If counting stats or championships alone, I'm sure that's easier to quantify. But even with that, the game has changed a lot (defenses can't hit anyone, like in the old days) as today is more a passing game. For example, 4 TD's passing in a game today isn't such a big thing as back years ago.
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Though we are diehard Pats fans, I still consider Montana the best ever so far. Both great clutch players (more important than pure stats IMO), but no one was as consistently cool under pressure than Montana IMO. To his credit, Brady hasn't had a lot of marquee players around him during his career (IOW he's been successful with an ever changing supporting cast, to his credit) and he is still playing, so we'll see...
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Most successful QB's on the fileld.... Let's see, in my football watching memory, there's Montana, Brady, Rodgers, Manning, Elway, Bradshaw, Farve, maybe Unitas and a few others. Hard to say, however, "one of the most successful QB's" off the field (measured in dollars) has to be Roger Staubach. He probably belongs on the best on the field too.
I agree and have much respect for the guys that got paid diddly. Remember the ones where the QB may or may not have a 1 bar facemask. Unitis, Star, Graham, Baugh..and so any more.

A neat thing happened. I was in the UK on business and planned on taking an extra day to go to Stonehenge, when a friend offered up an extra ticket to a game. Montana had been exiled to KC, SF and Young visiting. I figured Stonehenge had been around for a while, I'd never personally get a chance to be at a game with 2 greater QBs on the field.
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I don't really care who's the best QB ever. It's a different era and a different game with different rules, salary cap and free agency etc....

I only care about Brady helping my team make it to 6 Superbowls and win 4. He is MY best QB ever........
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