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Old 02-26-2007, 07:01 PM   #61
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I've learned my lesson, I won't start any more threads like this! I really was not trying to book the Daughters of the Confederacy in the same hotel as the NAACP. But I shouldn't act naive, I can't realistically expect a subject like this not to lead to a debate.

Still, the conversation stayed amazingly civil and is a credit to the board members.
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Re: British pulling out of Iraq
Old 02-26-2007, 11:28 PM   #62
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I can't realistically expect a subject like this not to lead to a debate.
And what is wrong with a debate ?

That's what the 'Other Topics' area is for. Works amazingly well I think, keeping
irrelevant discussions out of the other areas.

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Old 02-26-2007, 11:39 PM   #63
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My favorite Iraq protest song, by Jason Isbell, about a
Marine from his small home-town in Alabama:

What can you see from your window
I can't see anything from mine
Flags on the side of the highway
Scripture on grocery store signs
Maybe 18 was too early
Maybe 30 or 40 is too
Did you get chance to make peace with the man
Before he sent down his angels for you?

Mama's and grandmama's love you
Cause that's all they know how to do
And you never planned on the bombs in the sand
Or sleeping in your dress blues

Your wife said this all would be funny
If you came back home in a week
You'd turn 22 and they'd celebrate you
In a bar or tent by the creek
Your baby would just about be here
Your very last tour would be up
But you ain't coming back
They're all dressing in black
Drinking sweet tea in styrofoam cups

Mama's and grandmama's love you
American boys hate to lose
And you never planned on the bombs in the sand
Or sleeping in your dress blues

The high-school gymnasium is ready
Full of flowers and old legionaires
Nobody showed up to protest
Just a sniffle and stare

Red white and blue in the rafters
The silent old men from the corps
What did they say when they shipped you away
To fight somebody's Hollywood war

Mama's and grandmama's love you
'Cause that's all they know how to do
And you never planned on the bombs in the sand
Or sleeping in your dress blues

Nobody here could forget you
You showed us what we had to lose
And you never planned on the bombs in the sand
Or sleeping in your dress blues

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Old 02-27-2007, 04:52 PM   #64
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I've learned my lesson, I won't start any more threads like this!
Hey, these threads are fine. As Rusty notes, that's what "Other Topics" is for.

Ever notice/wonder why the quality of info exchange on political and many other areas is better on this ER board than on boards purpose-built to discuss political issues/current events? I think the moderators deserve a lot of the credit, and the fact that we have a cross-section of opinion. Most of the political boards have a built in "perspective (left-wing, right-wing, green, libertarian, etc) and the discussion is too predictable and emotional. Also, there are plenty of intelligent folks here who are used to thinking for themselves.

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I agree with Samclem.... this is an interesting bunch and pretty diplomatic (most of the time! )

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Just remember that B-52 strikes are part of diplomacy.
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Well I just don't want to be known as a troublemaker, especially since I somehow got labelled as a moderator. But yes, there is a reason this is the only board I participate on. Some of the best conversations I've had in life have been on this board, in fact, I find myself fudging a bit when talking to others by saying, "oh my friend was telling me the other day about xyz...." I hope they never ask where all these friends are....
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Well I just don't want to be known as a troublemaker
It's too late!!
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Well I just don't want to be known as a troublemaker,
Nah - think of it as junior Curmudgeon in training - you know sort of like Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Explorer.

Time will pass. Then full fledged Curmudgeon, senior really old crusty Curmudgeon or something along those lines.

Maybe Blog and write a few books like Fred on Everything or something.

heh heh heh
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Nah - think of it as junior Curmudgeon in training - you know sort of like Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Explorer.

Time will pass. Then full fledged Curmudgeon, senior really old crusty Curmudgeon or something along those lines.

Maybe Blog and write a few books like Fred on Everything or something.

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Just make sure you study Curmudgeon at a respected and acredited institution. Not all Curmudgeon Certificates are equal.
I would avoid those Spam emails which say that they can get you a Curmudgeon Certificate based on your life experience. They are just a scam out to take your money.
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What about the on-line curmudgeon programs? Oh wait, I think I'm already signed up for one...
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And what is wrong with a debate ?

That's what the 'Other Topics' area is for. Works amazingly well I think, keeping
irrelevant discussions out of the other areas.

Rusty,
Kudos you actually GET it

"Protracted debate is the grit that polishes knowledge." B.Franklin




Back to the topic...

In Iraq we are killing people there who are determined to kill us anywhere.


OBTW Brits are sending in more troops. Y'all saw that right?










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Rusty,
Kudos you actually GET it

"Protracted debate is the grit that polishes knowledge." B.Franklin
Thanks, yes, and the corollary, you learn more from talking to people who
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In Iraq we are killing people there who are determined to kill us anywhere.
I'm not so sure about that. I think a lot of them want to kill us now because
we f*cked up their country so badly.

But I think mostly it's them wanting to kill each other, because they disagree with
the way they choose to interact with their imaginary friend.

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I'm talking about al queda.

The sunnis and shiites need to have the civil war they want without our intervention. If they don't care about each other why should we? Let the God and the free market sort it all out. I could live with $200/bbl oil for a while.

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