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Re: Charlie says Adiós
Old 08-20-2005, 07:47 AM   #41
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Re: Charlie says Adiós
Old 08-20-2005, 10:14 AM   #42
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Having participated for an embarassingly long time (both in years on the net, and hours per day spent at it)* on a variety of boards and forums,* I would offer that this one has more interesting, intelligent, amusing people than most.* *

Debates gone sour and troll invasions are inevitable.* The anonymous nature of the medium causes some people to say things they never would face to face, and even those who are blunt in the "real world" may go a step further here.

Couple that with the fact that innocuous or joking comments can easily be misread, or misinterpreted, even with the valuable addition of smiley explanations, and you are fairly certain to see people eventually storm off in a huff.

I've learned to skim or ignore threads that bore or irritate me.* Alternatively I'll type a scathing reply then just delete it rather than post.

Works for me.*

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Old 08-20-2005, 11:12 AM   #43
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Yep, I do read, but as can be plainly seen, posting isnt going to be a regular thang.

Charlie, you're a gentleman and a fine contributor to this board.* I'm sorry to see you go.

The problem here isnt as much the vagaries of discussing a topic, but the inability of some people to discuss a topic while respecting the other posters and their point of view.

Unfortunately some people have myopic and simplistic perspectives and have a hard time with people who can grasp and discuss complex topics.* So they belittle and call names.* This makes them a real asset to the community... :P

In my opinion, you kept your powder pretty dry Charlie.* Something I had trouble doing.
Its a damn shame that TH and Charlie have been rustled off. Please reconsider, fellas. I think it is clear that many of us will miss your input. I can't realistically say that others will be more courteous, but maybe it is worth just not bothering to respond to certain, um, asshats.

I'm beggin' ya...
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:36 PM   #44
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I believe civility is a key element of a rich life
When the net was young, it was populated only by researchers and college students. Usenet was the "bbs" of the early net. Like here, it was usually a bastion of civility with several interesting threads of discussion. But every once in a while, somebody would get flamed to a crisp. Some people enjoyed the flamefests, but others found them rude and uncivil. So, alt.flame was created where you could go and flame somebody to a crisp without disrupting the normal flow of civil discourse.

Maybe that would work here. Try to keep the main threads civil, but create an outlet where anything goes.
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:19 PM   #45
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Its a damn shame that TH and Charlie have been rustled off.* Please reconsider, fellas.* I think it is clear that many of us will miss your input.* I can't realistically say that others will be more courteous, but maybe it is worth just not bothering to respond to certain, um, asshats.

I'm beggin' ya...
I'll miss Charlie (and Ted). TH?.................I will defer comment.

Kind of hate to lose anyone actually.

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Old 08-20-2005, 09:25 PM   #46
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I never read what happened or what made TH leave but I did enjoy reading what he had to say. Sharp guy if you ask me. I think I, being one of the newer people, missed a lot of Charlie's posts. I understand his reasons for leaving but still wish I had the opportunity to pick his brain a bit more.
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Old 08-20-2005, 09:40 PM   #47
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I enjoyed Charlie's posts. He always seemed calm and reasonable.
Also pretty nonconfrontational. That may have been his ultimate
reason for leaving. My brother is like that. Avoids any kind of
dispute or disagreement. When I was younger, I relished a good
fight. Not so much any more.

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Old 08-20-2005, 11:27 PM   #48
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I also enjoyed reading TH's posts.
What was the reason for his leaving?

Sure hope he comes back.
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Old 08-21-2005, 11:17 AM   #49
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I can see why someone could get tired of a forum like this one. After a point, you get all of the info. that you need and try to help out a few people along the way. But at some point sifting through the "asshats" is a waste of time. :P
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I can see why someone could get tired of a forum like this one. After a point, you get all of the info. that you need and try to help out a few people along the way. But at some point sifting through the "asshats" is a waste of time. :P
True, and of course everyone has his/her own list of who belongs in that category.

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Old 08-21-2005, 05:21 PM   #51
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Charlie,

We will miss you. I hope that you will come back from time to time.

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Old 08-21-2005, 05:32 PM   #52
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Charlie, You and I both know you're coming back.
How can you resist us and our good feelings toward you?
You got other places you can get this much unconditional virtual love?
Look to the left - even Lily is begging you...
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Old 08-21-2005, 05:51 PM   #53
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Charlie, You and I both know you're coming back.
How can you resist us and our good feelings toward you?
You got other places you can get this much unconditional virtual love?
Look to the left - even Lily is begging you...
I agree. Where on earth could you find this level of good vibes
and philosphical discourse? It ain't out there man. Believe me.
I've looked

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Old 08-22-2005, 12:11 AM   #54
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Charlie, aka Chuck-Lyn, yer one of the good guys from a way's back!

I pretty much stopped coming here around last November election time.* Too much politics.* I come here for ER advice, and to see how others are approaching ER.*
I'm not interested in someone's "I know better than you because I'm right" crap.* I'm ER'd, I don't put up with that garbage any more.* Come to think of it, I didn't put up with that garbage at work, I straightened it out!* So I'm sure as hell not going to put up with it on my own time!

If someone thinks Sooooo sooo much of themself, that they have appointed themselves to be my political or religious/non-religious savior, they are wasting their time. I'll just turn them off.* But then, maybe that's why they get into it here on the internet.* That in real life, no one will listen to them!* I wouldn't either!

Too many of the posts in the non-Other Forums devolve into political wrangling-crap.* I don't need it.* I would think that most of us would want to avoid the "Grumpy Old Man that no one listens to" phase of life for as long as possible!* *

Anyway Charlie, I wish you and yours the best!
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True, and of course everyone has his/her own list of who belongs in that category.
I agree except, I am still trying to figure what an "asshat" is. I guess it is just one of those things that you know when you see it?
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:34 AM   #56
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Yep, I do read, but as can be plainly seen, posting isnt going to be a regular thang.

Hey (), good to hear from you. Miss you posts...
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:54 AM   #57
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Charlie, aka Chuck-Lyn, yer one of the good guys from a way's back!

I pretty much stopped coming here around last November election time.* Too much politics.* I come here for ER advice, and to see how others are approaching ER.*
I'm not interested in someone's "I know better than you because I'm right" crap.* I'm ER'd, I don't put up with that garbage any more.* Come to think of it, I didn't put up with that garbage at work, I straightened it out!* So I'm sure as hell not going to put up with it on my own time!

If someone thinks Sooooo sooo much of themself, that they have appointed themselves to be my political or religious/non-religious savior, they are wasting their time. I'll just turn them off.* But then, maybe that's why they get into it here on the internet.* That in real life, no one will listen to them!* I wouldn't either!

Too many of the posts in the non-Other Forums devolve into political wrangling-crap.* I don't need it.* I would think that most of us would want to avoid the "Grumpy Old Man that no one listens to" phase of life for as long as possible!* *

Anyway Charlie, I wish you and yours the best!
Telly: I also liked Charlie, and can imagine his neighbors describing him as a "God fearing man" that is a good and helpful man.

I am of the same generation that Charlie is. We were raised with the motto, "My country right or wrong", and during the conscription days you entered the military with the idea that this was an obligation you owed to your country. Your religeous beliefs were based on what your parents were.

That was then, this is now, for better or worse.

Charlie jumped in the ring, laced up his gloves, and freely entered into both political and religeous "discussions".

As far as the "Grumpy old man" problem, that's a toughee

I personally do not involve myself with political or religeous "discussions" on this board, and prefer to find some common ground. (In other words, I am one boring -on of a -itch)
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:44 AM   #58
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I never imagined I had so many friends here. Thank you for your
kind words.

I will be checking in from time to time to see what's cooking and
may even post if I think it would be useful, but like Jarhead, I
won't be fanning any flames on political or religious discussions.

Cheers,

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Charlie,

Thanks for reconsidering and agreeing to remain a part of our wacky (at times) bunch. Always appreciate your input.

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Charlie,

I was very pleased to read your recent response. I look forward to reading your posts as I have always felt you had much to offer. You are a man of conviction and that is admirable.

There are others here that feel as strongly about their beliefs and I think that's fine. I don't think too highly of "wishy washy" types. However, open-mindedness is a good trait to have. I hope that everyone can respect each others opinions and at least agree to disagree on occasion.

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