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Old 04-12-2011, 03:20 PM   #41
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Speaking of food, I do (did) love Southern Pecan Pie. I say "did" since I'm a T2 diabetic and it's now on my never-never list.

At least I can still have my Scrapple: Pork Mush...The Pennsylvania Treat
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:31 PM   #42
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DH was born in Virginia and we have both lived here most of our lives. There are so many reminders of the civil war here. We've found artifacts like buttons from uniforms from digging in the yard. This anniversary reminds me of the tragedy that happened on the ground beneath my feet so many years ago.

Oh, and we do love our collard greens and grits.
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Sarah, you are from the South. You have no idea how Southerners treat Yankees unless you know some Yankees and could talk with them. No need to get so defensive.
Interesting. On one hand you're essentially bashing an entire region and its culture, and then you tell someone not to get defensive when they don't care for the stereotype?
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Let me repeat: I was born and raised in the South until I was 4 years old. My Mother was raised in the South ALL her life. I have plenty of relatives and friends in the South. And I lived in the South a total of 26 years of my life so far.

Maybe I should get upset since my mother's family was called "rude" in a previous post? Well, I won't because it is the way the poster saw it at that time. And I don't internalize other's opinions so much that I allow outsiders to upset me. I try to remain chill. And opinions change often with time for everyone because they might see the situation different at a different time.

As for me, I am not wasting my time today on this subject anymore.
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My great great grandfather & one of his brothers were captured and spent time at Camp Delaware until the end of the war when they were released in a prisoner exchange with the north. I'm proud to be able to say my ancestors were Confederate soldiers who fought for what they believed in. I don't have much patience for those who talk down the south because of their participation in the Civil War. There was a whole lot more on the table besides the issue of slavery.
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Speaking of food, I do (did) love Southern Pecan Pie. I say "did" since I'm a T2 diabetic and it's now on my never-never list.

At least I can still have my Scrapple: Pork Mush...The Pennsylvania Treat

Yeah, me too. Thanks for reminding me how much I'll miss pecan pie. Dammit.
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Speaking of food, I do (did) love Southern Pecan Pie. I say "did" since I'm a T2 diabetic and it's now on my never-never list.

At least I can still have my Scrapple: Pork Mush...The Pennsylvania Treat
I think you have hit upon a common denominator...something that unites North, South, East and West in felicitous agreement: Regional recipes involving pig parts used in various delectable ways.
My father loved scrapple, head cheese, pickled pig's feet, sausages of all kinds. If we had spit-roasted pig on the Christmas holiday, the head would be firmly in front of him and declared (by him) to be the choicest part (much to the horror of my sister and myself). His parents were German immigrants so it is no wonder. Gout was his affliction, though, not diabetes, so organ meats were eventually verboten.
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I'm going to call everyone Shugah today in Sarah and the South's honor.
Fine wit' me, dahlin!

(I think the above line by Bestwifeever is the only one out of this thread that I will remember in five minutes - - hysterical! )
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After all that money spent and lives lost, 150 years later and I still can't get a good Hushpuppy up here in Yankeeland.
However, I did have a good one when I was in Calabash a couple of weeks ago.
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Free--the oil must be hot hot hot! They should be lowered quickly into the grease and then drained immediately on paper towels (or even better, newspaper).
I have a wonderfully stained copy of Fearless Frying by the benevolent king of Charleston cookbooks, "Hoppin John" Taylor. His Lowcountry Cooking is another excellent one to learn more about foodways of the South.

Ah, yes, pork, the unifying force for good in the world! But you can forget feeding me scrapple after reading the Florence King anthology that described it in utterly gross detail!
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Certainly, the origin of scrapple is that of a poor man's food, made from the part of the pig that comes over the fence last...

But it could be made with "better" cuts of meat. Gourmet scrapple, anyone?
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I think you have hit upon a common denominator...something that unites North, South, East and West in felicitous agreement: Regional recipes involving pig parts used in various delectable ways.
My father loved scrapple, head cheese, pickled pig's feet, sausages of all kinds. If we had spit-roasted pig on the Christmas holiday, the head would be firmly in front of him and declared (by him) to be the choicest part (much to the horror of my sister and myself). His parents were German immigrants so it is no wonder. Gout was his affliction, though, not diabetes, so organ meats were eventually verboten.
I also grew up eating all these things. As kids we would get a dime if our piece of head cheese contained the bullet. And in those days, dimes were silver.

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Uh, hold the head cheese and pass the grits
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Uh, hold the head cheese and pass the grits
Ewww. Head cheese? Grits? As long as we're making a list of sort of blah foods, don't forget poi....
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Ewww. Head cheese? Grits? As long as we're making a list of sort of blah foods, don't forget poi....
Yeah, but head cheese is made from pig brains and other icky body parts - major yuck. Grits are made from corn and poi from the taro plant.
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I've never actually eaten head cheese, but it doesn't sound appealing. To me poi and grits both seem really bland. Grits are better with butter, and poi with fruit, but plain? both are pretty blah (to me).

None of the three are anything I would seek out. They just don't compare with chocolate cake, pizza, or lasagna.
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They just don't compare with chocolate cake, pizza, or lasagna.
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Nope; they are not on my list of allowable foods and have not been for over 10 years. I would kill for pizza, but unfortunately it has too high a carb count for me to consider (so says my glucose meter) ...
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When I was a toddler of 1-1/2 until age 4 I was raised in the South where I was told by a cousin over and over that I was from The South. It impressed me that this is considered important.
Then my mother married a Yankee from Iowa and we moved up north to Illinois, and I became a Yankee.

My point is: During my entire life in Illinois I never once--not once--heard any parent emphasize to their child that they were from The North. In fact, I was raised in the city where the Yankees had their most important outpost/prison during the war, but this was never brought up even in high school. I had to learn it by reading, of all things, Margaret Mitchell's Gone with the Wind! They keep a Civil War cemetary there until today at the Arsenal in that town, and it's kept up quite beautifully but no real festivals center around it ever that I'm aware of.
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The South is still to this day fighting the Civil War and still--if I can go by my cousins in The South who, by the way, are college and high school teachers--teach it to their own children that they are from The South. I, personally, wish they would stop it.
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Born in NY... I travel south of the Mason Dixon line often, and it appears some people still see the need to fight the war.
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Grits are better with butter, and poi with fruit, but plain? both are pretty blah (to me)
You'd like grits the way I fix 'em Shugah
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If you're a subsistence farmer, as many were just a generation of two ago, you'd eat every part of the pig but the oink, as the saying goes. Either that or go hungry...

And the way to eat grits is to cook your eggs over easy/medium, then mash the eggs in with the grits. Add lots of salt and black pepper, and voila!

Or Vi-O-la, as we say down south...
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