Join Early Retirement Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
CO Detector Battery Question
Old 03-08-2016, 12:35 PM   #1
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,930
CO Detector Battery Question

First Alert Model CO400 CO Detector..........instructions suggest "standard" 9 volt battery and give Duracell MN1604 and Energizer 522 as suitable replacements. In the next paragraph it warns not to use any other batteries.

Today the low battery alarm went off after only 8 mos. The battery that came with the unit was an Eveready 1222 and apparently not alkaline. I got the idea from that fact that "standard" might mean non-alkaline. But the Duracell and Energizer are apparently alkaline. A call to First Alert was not impressive.
Perhaps I put words in the rep's mouth but she confirmed that "standard" meant non-alkaline and suggested shorter lives for other batteries. She didn't mention that any harm would be caused.

Is there any apparent reason why other brands of alkaline batteries would not be suitable?
__________________

__________________
kaneohe is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 Early Retirement and Financial Independence Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Are you planning to be financially independent as early as possible so you can live life on your own terms? Discuss successful investing strategies, asset allocation models, tax strategies and other related topics in our online forum community. Our members range from young folks just starting their journey to financial independence, military retirees and even multimillionaires. No matter where you fit in you'll find that Early-Retirement.org is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with our members, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create a retirement blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 03-08-2016, 12:52 PM   #2
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 11,615
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaneohe View Post
Is there any apparent reason why other brands of alkaline batteries would not be suitable?
The Everready 1222 is just a cheapie zinc/acid battery, apparently First Alert wanted to save 20 cents rather than include a good alkaline battery.

I think any brand of alkaline battery would give good service, and wouldn't do any damage to the detector. Plus, if it did get low, the "low battery alarm" would let you know.

In many cases I think device manufacturers get some financial compensation for recommending a particular brand. In other cases, they know it works with that brand and want to head off customer questions about which brand to use.

The only >potential< "gotcha" would be some loophole in any warranty/lawsuit issue if the alarm failed to function, if you were harmed as a result, and there was a battery other than the type recommended by the manufacturer in the unit, and if that battery was actually not up to snuff. That's a lot of "ifs".
__________________

__________________
"Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite." - R. Heinlein
samclem is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 05:51 PM   #3
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Senator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Eagan, MN
Posts: 3,053
Generic alkaline batteries do not last as long. Use an alkaline Energizer or Duracell. I have a LOT of these things, over 100

Cheap batteries do not work, or do not last as long.
__________________
FIRE no later than 7/5/2016 at 56 (done), securing '16 401K match (done), getting '15 401K match (done), LTI Bonus (done), Perf bonus (done), maxing out 401K (done), picking up 1,000 hours to get another year of pension (done), July 1st benefits (vacation day, healthcare) (done), July 4th holiday. 0 days left. (done) OFFICIALLY RETIRED 7/5/2016!!
Senator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 06:00 PM   #4
Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
Give me a forum ...
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern IL
Posts: 18,282
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator View Post
Generic alkaline batteries do not last as long. Use an alkaline Energizer or Duracell. I have a LOT of these things, over 100

Cheap batteries do not work, or do not last as long.
That's not my experience. Oh, these guys actually measured a bunch:

Battery Showdown €” The Best AA Battery You Can Buy? €” Low Drain Test

Not really a whole lot of difference up/down the line - but Costco and Ikeas 'no name' alkalines were at the top, and cheaper than most all of them.

Just make sure that when you buy 'cheap', you aren't just buying 'old'.

-ERD50
__________________
ERD50 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2016, 07:24 PM   #5
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Sunset's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,733
Use any alkaline one you want, but don't use a lithium one, as when a lithium battery gets low (to set off the warning beeps) it will die very fast so very little warning.

Never use carbon zinc batteries as they barely last long enough to get out of the package.
__________________
Sunset is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 08:22 AM   #6
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,086
is the battery 8 months old, or the unit itself. I went through this on my CO detector, and after changing the batter a few times, I found some very small print that said that after a certain period of time (I don't remember how long) the unit itself was kaput, and should be replaced.
__________________
HadEnuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 11:10 AM   #7
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,930
Quote:
Originally Posted by HadEnuff View Post
is the battery 8 months old, or the unit itself. I went through this on my CO detector, and after changing the batter a few times, I found some very small print that said that after a certain period of time (I don't remember how long) the unit itself was kaput, and should be replaced.
Both......the previous unit was one of those that expired by time (not function) and had to be replaced. This one came w/ the non-alkaline battery so has some yrs of life left. I put in a "new" unused battery that had 8.3 volts, the same as the old battery. So far no low battery alarms but am looking for some newer new ones. Curious that the first time I looked at Amazon, the prices were high but as I continued to look the last day or so the prices seemed to have come down even w/o putting things in the cart.
__________________
kaneohe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2016, 02:05 PM   #8
Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
imoldernu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Peru
Posts: 4,616
While I choose not to get into discussions about types of batteries, there are numerous websites that disscuss the pros and cons of different types. Since I buy small batteries by the 60 pack, I have a bias. YMMV

Some websites:
Alkaline battery charging -- can regular batteries be recharged?

Rechargeable Battery Life Questions and Answer

Battery Showdown — The Best AA Battery You Can Buy?
__________________

__________________
imoldernu is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
? 1st Alert Specs SpecificBatteries for CO Detector kaneohe Other topics 12 06-05-2015 08:01 PM
Car battery question David1961 Other topics 20 04-03-2015 11:06 AM
Car Battery Question kaneohe Other topics 70 01-20-2011 11:54 AM
Looking for a stand-alone motion detector thefed Other topics 2 05-21-2008 07:42 PM
Smoke detector malfunction Corporateburnout Other topics 15 01-08-2007 01:22 PM

 

 
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:25 AM.
 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.