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Old 08-20-2008, 05:37 PM   #1
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convoluted car issue

A person I know owned a car with her boyfriend. The title was only in her name because he had DUIs. They split up. He disappeared with the car and its title. Now he is somewhere parts unknown, he got a ticket and she is getting chased to pay the ticket. She doesn't want the stinking car.

The police would not take a stolen car report because she does not have the title. She can't get a duplicate title (to report it stolen) because she does not know the VIN.

Sounds like I/she should talk to a lawyer.

Any ideas anyone? This is Wisconsin I am talking about.
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Does she know the license plate number? With that and a small fee can she do a search to get the VIN?
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I'll ask her and check if the plate number will get us the VIN.
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The plate number will be on the ticket, no?
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Maybe call up the taxing authority to get the VIN? I assume you guys pay property tax on vehicles. Wouldn't division of motor vehicles also have a record of the vin on the title? Do they use computers?
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How about your car insurance company? They'd have the VIN number in their records.

I distinctly remember having to go outside and copy the VIN number in order to complete my insurance application.
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I assume she didn't want the boyfriend with DUIs on the title because of insurance reasons. If she has insurance on the vehicle the insurance company should have the VIN and all other info that is needed.
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Maybe call up the taxing authority to get the VIN? I assume you guys pay property tax on vehicles. Wouldn't division of motor vehicles also have a record of the vin on the title? Do they use computers?
Come on - DMV with computers? This is Wisconsin! Good idea though - file for lost title.
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She can't get a duplicate title (to report it stolen) because she does not know the VIN.
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Good idea though - file for lost title.
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I second the insurance should have the VIN. Also the bill of sale has it.
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DMV and insurance company are good suggestions.

A third idea: In my area I have to have my car emissions checked annually. The postcard reminder always comes with the VIN on it.

A fourth idea: If she purchased the car recently, the previous owner or car lot may be able to provide the VIN or it may be on the purchase paperwork.

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I’m surprised that no one has pointed out that the insurance company might see the issue as insurance fraud. She had better report the car as stolen and hope the DUI guy doesn’t drag her down with him.
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tickets & fraud are the least of her problems. just imagine the dui'er getting into an accident and becoming libel for that.
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The plate number will be on the ticket, no?
We don't have the actual ticket yet, I am chasing that down.
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How about your car insurance company? They'd have the VIN number in their records.

I distinctly remember having to go outside and copy the VIN number in order to complete my insurance application.
Ha! No insurance.
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Maybe call up the taxing authority to get the VIN? I assume you guys pay property tax on vehicles. Wouldn't division of motor vehicles also have a record of the vin on the title? Do they use computers?
Part of the Catch-22. The DMV won't give us the VIN without the title, but we can't get the title without the VIN.

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Ha! No insurance.
(gasp) (stunned) WOW... I have gone "bare" before, but I at least got minimum liability.

So, if this guy gets in an accident, and the other driver wants millions for whiplash and/or whatever, she's toast.

How about the receipt or paperwork from when she bought it? My Toyota dealer typed the VIN number on all of those documents.

Another idea: How about loan documents?
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Iím surprised that no one has pointed out that the insurance company might see the issue as insurance fraud. She had better report the car as stolen and hope the DUI guy doesnít drag her down with him.
That is my goal, but so far the cops won't take a stolen vehicle report. But at least we can say we tried. I am still working on this, but they want proof of ownership (the title) before they will take the report.

I am worried about accidents and I am sure the former BF has no insurance.
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(gasp) (stunned) WOW...
Yeah. I know a lot of people who do stupid things.
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Is there a state safety inspection required? Go to the garage that inspected it in the past and ask to check the records.
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