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NO WAY they are con artists plain and simple 74 77.89%
I doubt it but I do think there is some chance it's for real 14 14.74%
It might be just fraud but I think it's probably for real 3 3.16%
It's DEFINITELY for real they actually talk to the spirits 4 4.21%
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:47 PM   #61
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This is going to spark a lively discussion....I can just sense it!
Being the resident board artist and into the supernatural /energy mumbo jumbo....I do beleive in psychics. I have been to a couple of bad ones, but I have also gone to two really good ones who would never have known the details of my life based just on my birthday and my name.
I have always had the philosophy that anything is possible and probable in this vast universe and try to keep a very open mind.
One of the people from CSI who debunks psychics and such says he always approaches them with an open mind.
CSI On-line: Scientifically Investigating Paranormal and Fringe Science Claims

Research at the above site and you will find out the techniques used.
Houdine spent a great deal of his time exposing the tricks of psychics and such.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:47 PM   #62
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There is a lot of good info on the CSI site.

Argument from Ignorance and Open Minds (Skeptical Inquirer January 1998)
-- an argument from ignorance -- broadly of the following kind:
  1. No one has disproved p (where p stands for any hypothesis, e.g., psychics are able to communicate with the dead; some alien abduction accounts are true).
  2. So it is possible that p is true.
  3. If it is possible that p is true, then we should keep our minds open to the investigation of p's truth.
Conclusion: We should keep our minds open to the investigation of p's truth.

They See Dead People-Or Do They? (Skeptical Inquirer Sep 2003)
They See Dead People - Or Do They?

An Investigation of Television Mediums

John Edward: Hustling the Bereaved; Investigative Files (Skeptical Inquirer November 2001)
John Edward: Hustling the Bereaved

‘Psychics’ Fail to Foresee Their Own Fortunes

"Sir Arthur," remembered Ernst, "came to the conclusion that Houdini really accomplished the feat by psychic aid, and could not be persuaded otherwise." Doyle's reaction, and the refusal to consider trickery even when admitted by the trickster, was so typical, noted Houdini, that "here is little wonder in his believing in Spiritualism so implicitly."
Houdini's Impossible Demonstration; Notes on a Strange World (Skeptical Inquirer July/August 2006)

Although mainstream science has never validated any psychic ability, self-styled clairvoyants, diviners, spirit mediums, and soothsayers continue to sell their fantasies—and in some cases to shrewdly purvey their cons—to a credulous public. Particularly disturbing is a resurgence of alleged psychic crime-solving.
The Case of the ‘Psychic Detectives’; Investigative Files (Skeptical Inquirer August 2005)
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I just had someone think it was stupid and didn't like the way it was worded...but zero complaints on the psychics poll.

I made a God poll in the soap box. I thought about it and I would like to see the results so what the heck!

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There is a lot of good info on the CSI site.

Argument from Ignorance and Open Minds (Skeptical Inquirer January 1998)
-- an argument from ignorance -- broadly of the following kind:
  1. No one has disproved p (where p stands for any hypothesis, e.g., psychics are able to communicate with the dead; some alien abduction accounts are true).
  2. So it is possible that p is true.
  3. If it is possible that p is true, then we should keep our minds open to the investigation of p's truth.
Conclusion: We should keep our minds open to the investigation of p's truth.
I have had a long standing argument with a person about alien abductions, satanic sacrifices, and cults of child molesters (aka day care centers). She is of the opinion that I do not have an open mind. I am of the opinion that her mind is so open that everything fell out.
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I have had a long standing argument with a person about alien abductions, satanic sacrifices, and cults of child molesters (aka day care centers). She is of the opinion that I do not have an open mind. I am of the opinion that her mind is so open that everything fell out.
That does seem to be the tendency.
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That is what your brain is for. To sort out information. If you see something that dose not make sense then you shouldn't believe it!

Unfortunately there is a lot of people who believe in things that have absolutely no basis at all!

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