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Old 03-06-2007, 03:39 PM   #21
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If you want good wine cheap make your own. As I type this I'm sipping on a Luna Bianca

http://www.winexpert.com/products/fi...0Bianca_v1.pdf

The Luna is equal to a Kendall Jackson chard at $15 per bottle.
I have in my cellar 350-400 bottles of cabs, syrahs, old vine zins, strawberry/rhubarb, elderberry, cherry vanilla, riesling & more. None cost more than $4 per bottle. Most $2-3. It takes time (hey, were retired right?) and space. My cellar is in the crawl space. My fermenter space is the spare bath, my bulk storage is in the back, unused bedroom. I bottle a couple times a year in the kitchen. A fun hobby, actually a intoxicating hobby now that I think about it..........Shredder
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Re: Do You Love Wine?
Old 03-06-2007, 05:40 PM   #22
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Hi Shredder
It looks really interesting - how much does the whole mix that they sell cost? ALso can you tell me how much the equipment might cost? This is almost like beer brewing from what it looks like...

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I have a wine question. Decent to really good wine is very appealing, such that it is hard for me to enjoy beef anymore without it. Yet medicos tell us that a man should only drink max of 2 glasses a day. By 2 glasses they aparently mean 8 ounces. This is not much wine! And it leaves no room left over for a brandy or a party drink in the evening.

I almost wish it were a habit I hadn't begun.

Are you content with a small glass or 2, once daily? Or do you ignore the guidlines?

Damn hard to enjoy a little buzz on 2 lasses of wine.

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I wouldn't worry about it. Something else will probably kill you anyway.

These are the same folks that told you eggs were bad for you.

In fact, I think most of the things I truly enjoy, I was told at some point, not to do them.
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Just dont drink wine made from eggs.
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In particular I would like a good:

Cabernet or Cabernet/Merlot/Franc oe whatever mix;
As others have mentioned, for the Cabernets we've been pretty consistently happy with Austrailians Yellowtail and Lindemann's.

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Good Chianti or Tuscan of some sort;
We like Ruffino (the cheap stuff is OK, not necessarily the "Classico reserve" or whatever it's called.
Placido is ok too if I recall correctly.

All can be bought for $7-10 here for the 750ml bottles if you buy them when on sale.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Something else will probably kill you anyway.
Now I feel much better!

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Now I feel much better!

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Have another glass of wine and you'll feel even better.
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Been getting into scotch lately, myself.
I've discovered Irish whiskey recently. Give some a try.
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For would-be connoisseurs, you can spend the rest of your life trying out different sakes and shochus.
Ah sake, I tried to interest DW in sake but she has never liked it. It may be a rejection of my past life.
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I've discovered Irish whiskey recently. Give some a try.
I do like Jameson and Bushmill's, and have been meaning to explore Irish whiskeys more. Any recommendations?

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Ah sake, I tried to interest DW in sake but she has never liked it. It may be a rejection of my past life.
Did you live in Japan in that past life?
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I do like Jameson and Bushmill's, and have been meaning to explore Irish whiskeys more. Any recommendations?

Did you live in Japan in that past life?
Clontarf is very smooth. I like Jameson too. Bushmill's third. I really haven't explored how many are out there. It may be like scotch -- seemingly infinite.

I've never been to Japan. I had a serious JA girlfriend in a past life and she was trying to discover her "roots." Sake was involved occasionally. The subject of sake is extremely complex especially when you realize it's nothing but fermented rice. Sunny side of the paddy?
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keep posting as you taste!

i prefer reds...but have not yet found any i love...and generally don't want to pay more than $10 (is there a correlation there?)

only one i remember is a Rosemont (rosemount?) shiraz - very deep flavor- sipping kind not gulping...

really - do the high-cost wines really taste that much better?

favorite reds available at Tr*dr Joe's appreciated...
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I rather like Bushmill's for sipping.
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It looks really interesting - how much does the whole mix that they sell cost? ALso can you tell me how much the equipment might cost? This is almost like beer brewing from what it looks like...

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much easier than brewing beer--no brewing required. The minimal equipment is not expensive. A couple of carboys, a corker, hydrometer, some hose, fermlocks. Maybe $80 or so. A good wine and beer making store will sell you an equipment kit with everything you need.

the kits for a 5 gallon batch vary. I'm thinking in the $35 to $75 range depending on what you get.

I haven't made much wine, I've just started. So when I say it's easier than brewing beer, I mean that the process is less time-consuming. I can't speak for the ratio of "bad batches." I've made quite a few batches of mead (honey-based wine). I've brewed lots and lots of beer over the years, however. In probably 200 batches of beer over the years, I've had one bad batch, and that was due to contaminated yeast that should never have been sold.

If success in winemaking is similar to beer, then the biggest issue is sanitation. If your process is sanitary, you will be successful.
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Thanks for the reply bssc. I will ask more questions once I get started. What have you tried till now and any observations that you would like to share?

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Years ago when I was discovering wine, I started a modest cellar. My favorite was a $12 - $15 cabernet from Shafer (Stag's Leap District I think). Anyway DH and I bought a few cases and loved it. Suddenly the price goes to $50/ bottle . Seems the Sunday New York Times ran a little story about Margaret Thatcher's visit to Washington DC and dinner at the White House.

You guessed it. Shafer cab (reserve) was served. I really dislike the Clinton's.


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Well, the anti-French reaction has paid off in wine values. I had a $5.99 sauvignon blanc from Sauvion that I really liked, and a very tasty merlot from Luc Pirlet for $8.99.
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