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Old 04-15-2011, 11:52 AM   #21
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I was hoping that the browser was a little better. If I can use it to browse forums like this one and check e-mail, then the free 3G starts to look quite attractive.
Go to Best Buy and try it out. I believe their price is the same, anyway.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:02 PM   #22
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Could someone explain what "rooting" is? I have looked but not found an answer. Thanks.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:15 PM   #23
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Could someone explain what "rooting" is? I have looked but not found an answer. Thanks.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:24 PM   #24
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Could someone explain what "rooting" is? I have looked but not found an answer. Thanks.
I believe this expression was used in the context of a Nook ebook reader. A Nook is basically an Android tablet that has been crippled so that the only thing you can do with it is read ebooks. To "root" a Nook means to un-cripple the device so that it can be used as a tablet. Rooting involves "non-standard" techniques developed by "non-standard" members of the computing community.

Interestingly, rooting seems to be a term applied to android-based devices. For Apple-based devices, the preferred term seems to be "jailbreaking."
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Could someone explain what "rooting" is? I have looked but not found an answer. Thanks.
It comes from Unix. Root access is administrator level access to the operating system. Gaining "root" is a hacker term for finding a way to gain access to the admin level of a system or device. There are online guides on how to gain root access to a Nook Color -- it is very easy. I haven't bothered with mine since I want to see what the new firmware offers (due out any day -- supposedly better browser, email and other features). I found a site that loads an Android Honeycomb (tablet OS) on a bootable min CD card. I have used that in my Nook to get a look at how it functions as a general use tablet. It seems OK as a small tablet but the more limited features of the store version have been optimized for the small space and work a bit more smoothly (IMHO). I will probably stick with the upgrade and skip rooting the thing.
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Go to Best Buy and try it out. I believe their price is the same, anyway.
I'm about to have an early lunch and then pedal over to Target to check it out. I'm not expecting the browser to be that great; if it were, then a lot of folk would be buying them for the free 3G web-browsing alone - not what Amazon want I'm sure.
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They're marginal as a web browser, but work OK for text-based apps like ER.org. The bigger DX is better for reading newspapers, IMO.

If you want a great reader get the Kindle. If you want another computer, get a tablet with a reading app.
I agree completely. I love my Kindle and charging is so infrequent I sometimes forget what's involved (not much, btw). I tried browsing but it was painful for me.
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I have a kindle and use it for reading. Browsing is a bit slower since it doesn't have a standard size keyboard or have number keys, so I don't use it for that. I am a touch typist so am slowed down). I do use it to check the weather.
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I have a Kindle DX, which I only use for reading books. I am very happpy with it. I do wish it had a back lit screen and that I could borrow e-books from the library which you can do with other devices.
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Note that it's possible to download the protected ebooks from the library, remove the protection, then use Calibre to convert them to Kindle format.
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I love reading on my Kindle (3rd gen), but the "experimental" web browser on it is painful.
I suppose you could read a text-based site ok, but having to do any navigation or following of links is very cumbersome. I've used it to check gmail only when there's absolutely no other way to get online. Typing anything other than lowercase text (numbers, punctuation) is slow.
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Note that it's possible to download the protected ebooks from the library, remove the protection, then use Calibre to convert them to Kindle format.
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I don't have any plans to steal books Al, but I might want to download a few good library books before a vacation and "extend" my loan. I don't see any moral hazard in that.
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These e-reader discussions are intellectually stimulating, but they're not much help at figuring out which one I'd want to buy.

Has anyone found a retail outlet or even a user's group where you can play with the various pieces of hardware for a try-before-buy decision?
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Has anyone found ... a user's group where you can play with the various pieces of hardware for a try-before-buy decision?
Here a couple in NYC: eReaders Meetup Groups - eReaders Meetups
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I love the ability to read from my iPod touch in a darkened room without a source of light. This is a major improvement for reading in a tent or in bed when DW wants to sleep. That the Kindle doesn't have a backlight is one of the things keeping me from buying it.
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These e-reader discussions are intellectually stimulating, but they're not much help at figuring out which one I'd want to buy.

Has anyone found a retail outlet or even a user's group where you can play with the various pieces of hardware for a try-before-buy decision?

You can go to Best Buy and try out almost all of the readers . It really is a personal preference . The one thing that I dislike about reading an e book as compared with reading a real book is if the story has a lot of confusing characters it is harder to go back and figure out who is who .
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The one thing that I dislike about reading an e book as compared with reading a real book is if the story has a lot of confusing characters it is harder to go back and figure out who is who .
You mean that it's easier with the ebook, right? I often come across a name I don't remember, so I set a bookmark, then search for the first instance of that name. I then say "Oh, yeah, now I remember." and go back to the bookmark.

Same thing for acronyms I've forgotten.

And the Kindle reader is great for quickly looking up the definitions of words.

I find myself missing those features when I read a hardcopy book.
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You mean that it's easier with the ebook, right? I often come across a name I don't remember, so I set a bookmark, then search for the first instance of that name. I then say "Oh, yeah, now I remember." and go back to the bookmark.

Same thing for acronyms I've forgotten.

And the Kindle reader is great for quickly looking up the definitions of words.

I find myself missing those features when I read a hardcopy book.
Yeah, or simply type in the name which gives you all the times it is mentioned, and go to the first one. One more reason why I only read Kindle books.

I also like never losing my place.
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