Dogs peeing on lawns

[samclem]

That depends on the collection agency's policy where one lives. Where we used to live, and where we live now, if there is excrement of any kind in the can they won't take it. And no, they won't separate out the bag with the poop in it.

If they >know< there's a bag of dog poop in it. I'm usually using opaque plastic bags from the grocery store so chances of detection are low.


As a practical matter, do people believe that dog owners are taking these bags of poop home, opening them up, and putting the feces in their toilets? If 1 in 100 does that, I'd be very surprised. Of course I do

 

[braumeister]

OOur neighborhood has dog poop bins as well as regular public trash cans all over the place so there really is no excuse for leaving poop bags on the roads and paths.

Yeah, but your country is considerably more civilized than mine. I see signs like this all over the place in England.

 

[aja8888]

If they >know< there's a bag of dog poop in it. I'm usually using opaque plastic bags from the grocery store so chances of detection are low.


As a practical matter, does anyone believe that dog owners are taking these bags of poop home, opening them up, and putting the feces in their toilets? If 1 in 100 does that, I'd be very surprised.

I walk my dog within a 55+ aged HOA neighborhood that has many neighbors walking dogs. Sometimes, several of us walk together. We have community rules on picking up the poop. Here is a recap as to what goes on with the walkers:

1. Some follow the rules and take the bags home (no idea what they do with them)

2. Some "look the other way" when the dog is dumping...anywhere...then leave the pile (unless caught in the ACT)!

3. One guy i know bags it and throws the bag down the nearest storm water drain (not a bad idea).

4. One lady I know bags it and then empties the bag in a wooded area and saves the bag for reuse. I suppose that's OK as the crap is there with squirrel and other critter dung.

5. Some people place the "loaded" bags in trash cans that are waiting for pick up. (that's OK too, unless caught by the can owner and he objects).

6. Dogs that dump in the unbuilt wooded areas seem to be "exempt" by owners. No rule here, but everyone seems to OK with it.

Dog peeing is universally accepted as "wherever" is OK. (Homeowners, most, but not all, here do not seem to be paranoid about front yard looks as the HOA does the landscaping, cutting, care, etc).

 

[samclem]

3. One guy i know bags it and throws the bag down the nearest storm water drain (not a bad idea).

Bad, bad. In most areas, the storm drains are separate from the sewers. Plastic bags in the storm drains can clog them up, and at best they (and the poop in them) get dumped in a body of fresh water, the ocean, or they clog a grate/filter somewhere and have to be scooped off and dumped in a landfill.

 

[aja8888]

Bad, bad. In most areas, the storm drains are separate from the sewers. Plastic bags in the storm drains can clog them up, and at best they (and the poop in them) get dumped in a body of fresh water, the ocean, or they clog a grate/filter somewhere and have to be scooped off and dumped in a landfill.

So what happens to the tons of road debris, empty cans, roof shingles, dead animals, construction debris, etc that either purposely or inadvertently ends up in storm sewers? We live in a hurricane area and see 5" rainstorms frequently.

Do you really think the ocean or the surrounding discharge waters are clean? Not so. Walk any beach or shoreline in a populated area and see what I mean.

 

[MRG]

First world problems ! Folks, time for a reality check my dog can't get a boner.

+1

I read 13 pages of dog pee obsession, and think about all the poster's who were stockpiling food, money, whiskey, and weapons for the end of the world.

Good lord, don't move to horse, cattle, or pig farming areas. Don't deal with cleaning a chicken, rabbit, deer....

Haha. There's a lot worse than the neighborhood dog peeing in your yard. What if it was the neighbor? We lived in downtown KCMO for a year. Homeless folks would dumpster dive and wake us up. Guess where they went to the bathroom? I remember quite a few bathing naked in the fountains that KC is rightfully proud of.

Do they make doggy Viagra? How much does it cost? [emoji23] Maybe the thread could use some. Maybe doggy benzos?

 

[Aerides]

So what happens to the tons of road debris, empty cans, roof shingles, dead animals, construction debris, etc that either purposely or inadvertently ends up in storm sewers? We live in a hurricane area and see 5" rainstorms frequently.

Do you really think the ocean or the surrounding discharge waters are clean? Not so. Walk any beach or shoreline in a populated area and see what I mean.

I would think that this falls under "doing what little I can" to be a better custodian of the planet. If I can avoid adding to a problem, I do.

 

[travelover]

Bad, bad. In most areas, the storm drains are separate from the sewers. Plastic bags in the storm drains can clog them up, and at best they (and the poop in them) get dumped in a body of fresh water, the ocean, or they clog a grate/filter somewhere and have to be scooped off and dumped in a landfill.

+1, this is a terrible thing to do. Those drains ultimately go to the ocean. Ever hear of those huge floating plastic trash islands? https://nowthisnews.com/videos/news/sperm-whale-dies-with-64-pounds-of-garbage-in-its-stomach

 

[samclem]

We live in a hurricane area and see 5" rainstorms frequently.

Right. So you and your neighbors have a direct interest in making sure those storm drains stay as unobstructed as possible. Plastic bags in the storm drain don't help.

Do you really think the ocean or the surrounding discharge waters are clean? Not so. Walk any beach or shoreline in a populated area and see what I mean.

They aren't as clean as they could be. Still, I wouldn't throw a plastic bag of dog poop onto the beach.

 

[foxfirev5]

After reading the last couple days of posts I am more convinced than ever that we have a growing number of oblivious dog owners. From the constant barking little darlings, the low self esteem guard dog owners, and ignoring the defecating mutt owners, I see a microcosm of todays society.

In the interest of full disclosure , I don't have a dog in this hunt.

 

[LOL!]

I know folks that are glad to pick up the plastic bags of poop and take them home for disposal.
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They are the ones who put the bag there in the first place. They were going out on a walk and knew there was no place to dispose of the bag on the walk, so they set it aside for pick-up on their way back rather than carry it all over the place.

I imagine though that sometimes they forget they temporarily stored the poop and may get it the next day.

In our neighborhoods, there are plenty of pocket parks that all have 55-gallon trash bins for trash that mostly get poop in plastic bags and few other odd bits of trash. The park crews routinely empty these.

But the local government says the best place for dog poop is to take it home and flush it down your toilet. See also: https://thedailyshep.com/flushing-dog-poop-flushable-dog-poop-bags-good-or-bad/

 

[joeea]

After I've got my dog's poop in a bag, if my neighbors have their trash cans out at the curb for pickup, is it discourteous to throw the poop in?

It's only courteous if you ask permission first. Otherwise, it's completely wrong.

What about if the trash can is now empty and waiting to get rolled back to the house?

You really have to ask?

I keep the bag with me and throw it in my own trash, which means I may be carrying it with me for 30 minutes or more.

Your 30 minutes of carrying your own dog's waste doesn't justify throwing it into my trash can, where the bag might get punctured and leak.

Another person I know very well says it is not a problem to throw it in a neigbor's can, full or not.

Feel free to use that other person's trash can.

 

[joeea]

First world problems ! Folks, time for a reality check my dog can't get a boner.

Maybe you can give him one of yours.

 

[Aerides]

I believe the "neighbors putting their dog-poop baggies in my trash can" topic is consistently in the top 3 most contentious neighborhood discussions on Nextdoor.

PS, don't toss your crap in my trashcan.

PPS, if you haven't joined nextdoor, don't.

 

[Red Badger]

I believe the "neighbors putting their dog-poop baggies in my trash can" topic is consistently in the top 3 most contentious neighborhood discussions on Nextdoor.

PS, don't toss your crap in my trashcan.

PPS, if you haven't joined nextdoor, don't.

On our nextdoor, it's more about the fraud and theft the HOA and management company might be doing. I'd welcome some dog poo issues...

 

[samclem]

I believe the "neighbors putting their dog-poop baggies in my trash can" topic is consistently in the top 3 most contentious neighborhood discussions on Nextdoor.

FWIW:
A Twitter poll from April 2018: 70% said it was okay to put dog poop in a neighbors trash bin, 30% said "not okay". 4000 responses.

 

[Jerry1]

I would not like it. I suppose if it was done prior to pick up and it went with my trash, I wouldn’t know or care, but after pick up? No way. I line my garbage can with a plastic bag. Therefore, after pick up, I’d have to deal with the poop bag in order to get my bag into the can. I would not be happy about that. Similarly, if it was put in my can before pick up, the liner bag would be tied and the poop bag would be sitting on top separate from my garbage. If that meant that the garbage was not collected/rejected, I’d be very upset.

 

[GravitySucks]

Turned yellow underneath after I scooped it up with a shovel a week later

Ripper, I think a small sign would eliminate 99% of the problem. Dog owners probably assume it's not a big deal, but if they know otherwise I'm sure most would respect that.

+1 I have a neighbor that has a a no dog sign on her mail box. I never let my boy on her lawn.

 

[mamadogmamacat]

No sidewalks in my subdivision. And, although most others do not, based on how interested my dog is in smelling them, I do avoid allowing her to pee on any bushes, flowers and other plants around mailboxes or along lawn edges, most other dog owners do not. My girl just dribbles on the grasses near these items based on her need to respond to the markings done by other dogs. For those who have mentioned or implied what a shame it is to see items planted near the edge of lawns ruined by dog pee, a note of caution regarding planting anything in such areas, especially if you have no sidewalks. These are, as been mentioned, easement areas. My subdivision recently had all the water pipes upgraded by the county water dept, and most were located in these easement areas. Hence, all these area were torn up by the contractor doing the work. They had no obligation to replace anything other than the sod, which they did replace.

 

[timo2]

On our nextdoor, it's more about the fraud and theft the HOA and management company might be doing. I'd welcome some dog poo issues...

+1

I just found out that that our HOA is suing the last realtor managing it for embezzling $100k from the HOA. But maybe it was just bad karma because of all the unpicked up small dog poop reported on our nextdoor.

 

[Bestwifeever]

We have lots of dogs in our neighborhood. I like dogs but I don't want to live with them also. What bothers me is that some people that walk their dogs in front of our house allows them to pee on my lawn. I take great pride in my landscape and spend many hours keeping up my lawn. The result of them urinating leaves a lot of dead spots due to the nitrogen in dogs pee. Not happy with this and have had words with those that allow this. What do others feel about this?

Our little (16 lb) dog stays in our backyard 99 percent of the time, where we pick up the poop right after her. Her pee doesn't affect the grass at all. But I have wondered, re the 1 percent of the time we walk her around the block, where we always keep her on the grass between the sidewalk and the street and always of course pick up her poop, if we should carry a water bottle and dilute any pee. Courtesy pee dilution water bottles could be the next big thing for pet owners to carry.

 

[Alan]

Yeah, but your country is considerably more civilized than mine. I see signs like this all over the place in England.
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Yes indeed and they are usually enforced as well, particularly in towns with lots of special dog poop trash cans available. These trash cans usually have dog pop bags as well so need to buy them or use an excuse that you forgot to bring some with you.

Our little (16 lb) dog stays in our backyard 99 percent of the time, where we pick up the poop right after her. Her pee doesn't affect the grass at all. But I have wondered, re the 1 percent of the time we walk her around the block, where we always keep her on the grass between the sidewalk and the street and always of course pick up her poop, if we should carry a water bottle and dilute any pee. Courtesy pee dilution water bottles could be the next big thing for pet owners to carry.

It must depend on the type of grass and/or dog as to whether the grass is damaged or not. My son moved into the house he bought in December and the back lawn is covered in brown spots from the pee of the elderly male dog that the owners have. After 6 months those brown spots are finally greening up.

I love the idea of “courtesy pee dilution bottles”

 

[LOL!]

I love the idea of “courtesy pee dilution bottles”

I think those are simply called "Newcastle Brown Ale" in the UK.

 

[Winemaker]

Unless you really are the curmudgeon-on-the-porch poster child, that's not practical.

Why not place a motion-activated sprinkler or two in strategic locations? Automatic deterrence and dilution.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0742MB4M...t=&hvlocphy=9028343&hvtargid=pla-362903744098

I have 2 of these in garden for deer to prevent an late night diner from opening up.

 

[joeea]

FWIW:
A Twitter poll from April 2018: 70% said it was okay to put dog poop in a neighbors trash bin, 30% said "not okay". 4000 responses.

If I catch you leaving poop in my trash can, you get the hose.