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Old 12-29-2010, 02:52 PM   #21
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Here's something I found on eBay that disturbs me. My wife does equine art, she was looking at the "Self-Representing" artists category, meaning artists who are painting and marketing their art themselves, not galleries or print shops. The category was absolutely full of huge paintings for $20. and all the descriptions were in broken English and the sellers were from China. They took up all the top search spots, so any real artists' ads were lost. No real artist can compete with these art "mills" that crank out ripped off images by the tons and sell for pennies. Not good for "made in America" or real artists.
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Seems like the simplest answer would be theft "fell off the truck".
I still don't get it Nords....even if they were giving the items away for free which is basically what they are doing, how can they make money after paying for shipping and packaging. It's basic math to me, 6 cents in for product, $2.00 out for packaging and shipping, you loose money each time.
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It seems we may have gotten a bit off topic. This thread wasn't to debate whether these items were counterfit or not since. The question was, how can they afford to ship something from China, where the shipping costs are more then what the item sold for? I'm talking about the buy it now with free shipping.

It has nothing to do with the quality of the product.

Just this week I bought a plastic case to hold a memory card for 6 cents. I don't really care about the quality since I'm sure it will last for years. I'm also sure the packaging and stamps cost more then 6 cents and I'm not including ebay or paypal fees.

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I still don't get it Nords....even if they were giving the items away for free which is basically what they are doing, how can they make money after paying for shipping and packaging. It's basic math to me, 6 cents in for product, $2.00 out for packaging and shipping, you loose money each time.

They can't but they use the items a loss leader to draw you in to their store . As for the Seiko watch don't be so sure it's real . Apparently the copies coming out of China are so good it is impossible to tell the difference between an authentic watch and their copies .
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I still don't get it Nords....even if they were giving the items away for free which is basically what they are doing, how can they make money after paying for shipping and packaging. It's basic math to me, 6 cents in for product, $2.00 out for packaging and shipping, you loose money each time.
It's like seeing a turtle on a fence post- you have to assume it had some help getting up there.
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They can't but they use the items a loss leader to draw you in to their store . As for the Seiko watch don't be so sure it's real . Apparently the copies coming out of China are so good it is impossible to tell the difference between an authentic watch and their copies .
There was one seller that was selling velvet pouches/bags for 6 cents including free shipping and I bought a couple to place jewelry in for Christmas presents, but that's all they sold.
Is that like, "it looks like a Seiko, keeps time like a Seiko and lasts as long as a Seiko at less then a quarter of the cost". Hmmm
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Thanks Westernskies, that explains everthing now, I can sleep at night again.
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What took you so long, I was getting worried nobody was going to join in on the "group hug".
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Is that like, "it looks like a Seiko, keeps time like a Seiko and lasts as long as a Seiko at less then a quarter of the cost". Hmmm
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Absolutely ! They are so good at copying designer pocketbooks that is impossible to tell the difference .
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Absolutely ! They are so good at copying designer pocketbooks that is impossible to tell the difference .
Don't be so sure. There is always a tell. It's just knowing what you are looking at to find it. I thought I was pretty good at spoting fakes, until I came across a shipment of counterfeit Panama Jack t-shirts. I couldn't tell they were counterfeits, until the tells were pointed out.
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Is that like, "it looks like a Seiko, keeps time like a Seiko and lasts as long as a Seiko at less then a quarter of the cost". Hmmm
Hmmm...Why not upgrade that "Seiko"? Maybe get traineeinvestor to take a stroll up Nathan Road in Hong Kong and get you a "Rolex" for $25


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Thanks Westernskies, that explains everthing now, I can sleep at night again.
Great! Glad I could help.... but buying counterfeit merchandise off eBay, I'm not sure I could sleep that well.
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This reminds me of the time we bought two boxes of Montecristo Cigars from Cuba, (we're from Canada) for $20.00 a box. Since we don't smoke they were to give friends as presents for those the smoke the occasional cigar but didn't want to spend the money on a premium cigar. She didn't want to take the chance of givening fake Montecristo's so she went to a cigar specialty store and asked if they were real. Not only were they real, he offered to purchase each box for $125.00. Do you think a cigar store can tell the real from a fake?
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This reminds me of the time we bought two boxes of Montecristo Cigars from Cuba, (were from Canada) for $20.00 a box. Since we don't smoke they were to give friends as presents for those the smoke the occasional cigar but didn't want to spend the money on a premium cigar. She didn't want to take the chance of givening fake Montecristo's so she went to a cigar specialty store and asked if they were real. Not only were they real, he offered to purchase each box for $125.00. Do you think a cigar store can tell the real from a fake?
Only Fidel and Monica can tell the difference.
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