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Old 02-13-2007, 01:00 AM   #21
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How about the common misuse of i.e. for e.g.?

i.e. - that is

e.g. - for example

OK I know one of you smarties knows the Latin behind the abbreviations.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:00 AM   #22
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I used to write articles for trade rags once in a while. An editor told me that I wrote well for an engineer -- she didn't have to change much at all. I asked her why she changed "... implement interface A which can't be ..." to "... implement interface A that can't be ..."? When do you use "that" vs "which?"

She explained that you always use that with a restrictive clause. It took me a few more years, but I think I finally got that.
Donald Knuth, famous computer scientist and inventer of TEX, calls it the "wicked which" problem.
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Donald Knuth, famous computer scientist and inventer of TEX, calls it the "wicked which" problem.
Whatever happened to him? I read two of his books when I was a young comp sci major. I haven't heard anything from him in 20 years.

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Whatever happened to him? I read two of his books when I was a young comp sci major. I haven't heard anything from him in 20 years.
He's a "retired" prof at Stanford.

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Whatever happened to him? I read two of his books when I was a young comp sci major. I haven't heard anything from him in 20 years.

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He's now retired from Stanford. Here is his web page.

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/

That's pretty impressive to read two of his books as an undergraduate. He only got one more written. Computer science just developed faster than he could write and he got side tracked by TeX. He is an amazing man who developed a lot of fundamental work in computer science and the analysis of algorithms. His name pops up frequently in the problem section of the American Mathematical Monthly.

I had two copies of Vol I,II,III of The Art of Computer Programming, one in my home study and one in my office. I don't know if it still does, but the first publication he listed in his vita was an article he published in Mad Magazine when he was a teenager.
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always use that with a restrictive clause. It took me a few more years, but I think I finally got that.
the other annoying that is used to objectify people.

he's the guy that (or worse yet, what) delivers the mail. no. he's the guy who delivers the mail.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds that irritating.
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Or when "he" and "I" are used incorrectly.

The lady wanted he and I to go home.

s/b The lady wanted him and me to go home.
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