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Old 06-10-2013, 11:53 AM   #41
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What timing..I just got a call about the estimate.

Head Gasket about $1500

Engine Seal about $800

And yes...they'd have to take out the engine.

At least now... I know what I have to do.
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Psst. Wellesley Drip pan..
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What timing..I just got a call about the estimate.

Head Gasket about $1500

Engine Seal about $800

And yes...they'd have to take out the engine.

At least now... I know what I have to do.
Another option is checking into what a remanufactured engine would cost installed. Since they have to remove the engine anyway, you'd get a warranty and brand new seals and gaskets. Really depends if the rest of the car is worth spending the money on.
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Another option is checking into what a remanufactured engine would cost installed. Since they have to remove the engine anyway, you'd get a warranty and brand new seals and gaskets. Really depends if the rest of the car is worth spending the money on.
I think your last sentence is exactly right. If knowing that having the repair done and the work won't come up with some other big repair soon, I'd just cough up to dough to get the fix done and move on. But honestly, I don't have confidence that the trans won't go out again in a year or two (just had that fixed the 2nd time in two years-- this time, still under warranty).

Plus, if I keep...regular maintenance according to the manual calls for a big tune up (sparks, belts, etc) last time about $1000.

So now, more clarity sets in and my thoughts are more turned towards what's best for me a Prius C or Honda Fit.
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On a somewhat related note, it sure is funny how one man's junk is another man's treasure. After I went to the 2nd place for an estimate, I went back to the original place asking about the dipstick (still not arrived yet) and mentioned that I might be looking for another vehicle, perhaps a Prius C and do they service it?

Well..as I'm about to drive off, one of the mechanics comes up to me and mentions, "I heard you are thinking of selling your car?, how many miles? how much? etc.) When I named a price I'd be happy to get for it, he said, "thanks.. I hope you get that price..(but not from him)"
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Well..as I'm about to drive off, one of the mechanics comes up to me and mentions, "I heard you are thinking of selling your car?, how many miles? how much? etc.) When I named a price I'd be happy to get for it, he said, "thanks.. I hope you get that price..(but not from him)"
He was hoping you were so unhappy with it you'd let it go for a pittance...
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He was hoping you were so unhappy with it you'd let it go for a pittance...
That was how I felt too. Screw me with repair costs..then screw me with buying the car used. Ain't gonna happen.
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True, a quart every 1000 miles is not that bad. But, the leaks...... If you keep the car unfixed, park it in ERD50's driveway, not mine.

Or use the drip pan at REWahoo's place.
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In times like this (car hunting) I wish that I wasn't so analytical.

As of today, my gut feeling is

65% Honda Fit
34% Prius C
1% Repair old Neon (never say never)
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In times like this (car hunting) I wish that I wasn't so analytical.

As of today, my gut feeling is

65% Honda Fit
34% Prius C
1% Repair old Neon (never say never)
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This guy is pretty detailed about his impressions of the Prius C:

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A good article from Edmunds about when to repair vs when to buy...


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Fix Up or Trade Up? When To Repair Your Car or Buy a New One -- Edmunds.com
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A good article from Edmunds about when to repair vs when to buy...

Fix Up or Trade Up? When To Repair Your Car or Buy a New One -- Edmunds.com
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If the cost of repairs is greater than either the value of the vehicle (check its True Market Value (TMV®) here) or one year's worth of monthly payments, it's time to buy another vehicle.
This gets mentioned time and time again, correct me if you think I"m wrong, but I'd say this is NOT a valid economic consideration. I only see two choices w/o investing even more money. Repair the car is one. Or don't repair it, and trade it in on a used car that costs ~ same as the repair.

How much is the car worth w/o the repair? It seems obvious to me, that if a $3,000 nominally valued car needs a $4,000 repair, no one will pay you above scrap price for it.

So the car will be worth $3,000 after the repair. Or maybe more, if this included something like a new timing belt and water pump - knowing it was done puts you ahead of other cars that are due that maintenance. So the true cost of the repair was really ~ $1,000.

What is the realistic alternative? Sell the car for scrap, and buy a $4,000 used car with unknown history? That could be more risky than applying $4,000 to the car you know.

I just don't see where the 'repair > car value' has any relevance. A comparison to your alternatives is the only thing that is relevant.

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This gets mentioned time and time again, correct me if you think I"m wrong, but I'd say this is NOT a valid economic consideration. I only see two choices w/o investing even more money. Repair the car is one. Or don't repair it, and trade it in on a used car that costs ~ same as the repair.

How much is the car worth w/o the repair? It seems obvious to me, that if a $3,000 nominally valued car needs a $4,000 repair, no one will pay you above scrap price for it.

So the car will be worth $3,000 after the repair. Or maybe more, if this included something like a new timing belt and water pump - knowing it was done puts you ahead of other cars that are due that maintenance. So the true cost of the repair was really ~ $1,000.

What is the realistic alternative? Sell the car for scrap, and buy a $4,000 used car with unknown history? That could be more risky than applying $4,000 to the car you know.

I just don't see where the 'repair > car value' has any relevance. A comparison to your alternatives is the only thing that is relevant.

Am I wrong?

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I don't think this is a matter of right/wrong. As you say -it is a personal decision that can vary considerably.
I drive old vehicles. New tires, shocks and a fill-up will exceed the resale value of my car. Other things that I consider are-

Tax and license fees of a new/newer car will pay for a lot of repairs

Savings in DMV/insurance when keeping the old car

In my community dinging the other guys car when opening your door is expected behavior.

I am not quite ready to decide the type of vehicle - small wagon, small SUV, etc..

I do not enjoy the car shopping experience
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I did have a chance to test drive a Honda Fit this past weekend (not at a dealer, but at a relative's house). I love the magic seats and didn't have any blind spots that some reviews have mentioned. Plus, the rear view is fabulous compared to the Prius C or my current car.

Though, I did find the noise, and not that much pep during acceleration accurate on some reviews.

In the car search, I still feel like Goldilocks However, after the test drive, I my impression of the Fit is higher than I had just by reading.
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I have two friends with Fits and they both love them.
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I have two friends with Fits...
It seems a shame - there are some excellent anti-seizure meds on the market today.
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I do like the name-

It fits the budget
Pawn Stars won't fit
It fits into the small parking space
The fifth occupant will throw a fit
Not fast, but fit
After a few drinks, you won't give a phit
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