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Old 07-06-2006, 07:55 AM   #21
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No because Rangel isn't as stupid as Bush is.

Also, if blacks held whites in slavery in this country for 80 years or so, and blacks discriminated against whites, it would be a legitimate statement. You don't seem to grasp the blacks struggle for civil rights. Do you?
I don't think personal attacks like Rangel's statements are ever legitimate statements, unless you are at a roast. I do grasp the struggle. I don't grasp the personal attacks.
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Re: Even Congress is laughing.................
Old 07-06-2006, 08:12 AM   #22
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So it is racist for any individual to criticize for any reason, valid or not, someone of a different race? How far down does this racial/ethnic classification go in this context? Can a Polish white person criticize an Italian white person? Can a Northern Italian criticize a Southern Italian? Can a man from Pisa criticize a person from Florence (Tuscan neighbors, and boy do they look down on each other!)? What are the rules?!

I never said you couldn't criticize someone of a different race. That's done all the time. However, when you start bringing race into it, that's a different story. For instance, if Mr. Rangel just said that Dubya was a dumbass, that's not racist. Saying he's a typical dumbass cracker would be.

And if a Polish white person went and called an Italian white person a stupid wop, dago, or whatever, yeah, I'd consider it racist. Or, if there's such a word, at least ethnicist? To hate an individual for whatever reason isn't racist, but to hate them, or make disparaging remarks about them simply because of their ethnicity would be racism. Or if that's too harsh of a word, at least discrimination. But in the end, aren't we all a part of the same race? The human race? Okay now, let's all join together, sing Kumbaya, and then go hug a tree.

But in the end, I think context is everything. Sometimes things are said to be funny. Sometimes things are said to hurt. Or sometimes, as in the case of Mr. Rangel, they're simply said because they fit! :P
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I agree that Bush is such a biggot and salmon tastes good
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I think the statement is racist in the fact that a person of one race made a disparaging remark about a member of another race. Regardless of what race each person is.
Let's get real here folks. People make disparaging remarks about each other all the time. It is only racist if the negativity is attributed to race. Rangel's quote was funny because it was personal, not generic. Bush is regularly portrayed as dumb. Rangel just used tongue-in-cheek faulty logic to extend Bush's perceived dumbness to the broader class of whites to "disprove" a racist myth of white superiority. It doesn't say whites are dumb - it just uses Bush to "demonstrate" that they are not smarter than others.

Admit it, the joke is funny and not inappropriate.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:19 AM   #25
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I thought the joke was very funny. He's still a racist though.


(FYI, I can't be racist - my wife is ain't white and my great aunt is black).

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Tastes Great!


Less Filling!


The debate goes on....................
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:36 AM   #27
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How does the salmon compare to the herring? I'm particularly fond of the red species.
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YOU dont have the...the reading ability
This statement is totally irreeveny!

I have to vote for : Not Racist. *

The joke says this: "Some people say that whites are superior, but this white man is so dumb that it does not support that idea."

I just can't seen any racism in that statement.

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I'm going on the record to say that I am supremely confident that I could build an inflatable kayak from wild salmon, but that it would be all but impossible to do with farm raised.

And even if you could, and you got stranded somewhere and had to eat your kayak...it just wouldnt taste as good.
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I'm going on the record to say that I am supremely confident that I could build an inflatable kayak from wild salmon, but that it would be all but impossible to do with farm raised.

And even if you could, and you got stranded somewhere and had to eat your kayak...it just wouldnt taste as good.
I am going to have to disagree with you here CFB. The expansion coefficient of wild salmon is clearly less than that of farm raised. Therefore, the farm raised would allow greater inflation prior to rupture than wild salmon. As for eating your kayak...there is no clear data either way on the relative taste of wild vs farm raised inflated salmon.
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The firmer texture of wild salmon CLEARLY would provide better a better expansion coefficient, and a lower leak ratio.

By exposing your thinking to the contrary, you are just as clearly a dense fool, probably a racist and some other politically inflammatory thing I'm not going to be able to come up with as my wife just handed me a fresh baked scone and I have to try it.
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No because Rangel isn't as stupid as Bush is.

Also, if blacks held whites in slavery in this country for 80 years or so, and blacks discriminated against whites, it would be a legitimate statement. You don't seem to grasp the blacks struggle for civil rights. Do you?
Wow, when they say liberals are getting bitter I now see what they're talking about

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But then she doesn't get humor. She doesn't get a lot of things in life.
Is it considered racist to make fun of a person who lacks a sense of humor?

In other words, if they can't tell that they're being subjected to a racist attitude, has a crime actually been committed?
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Most certainly, as someone else whose business its not will surely tell them, and if they're still not offended, a class action suit will result to truly resolve the matter for them.

And they'll all be represented by inferior farmed salmon.
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