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Old 12-27-2007, 04:10 PM   #61
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But, better yet, as SteveR put it: "If you really want some action...compose a very well written letter with your story and send it to the CEO, COO, President of HR, Division Pres., and your local HR person. That works wonders. "... Put it in writing. Make it sound like you have a concern for supervisor's future welfare, employee morale and the company's turnover/financial welfare. I wouldn't get into it in an exit interview though. Simply pass the sealed envelope across the desk as you stand up the leave. "You'll find everything you need to know in this." Show a cc: to corporate HR and mail that one. If there is any hope for action, this should do it.
This sounds like a sensible way to handle it. A well written letter can detail all of the issues properly. Sending it to several managers helps insure someone will follow up. Giving it to the exit interviewee takes him or her off the hook. They don't need to evaluate the veracity of your complaint and decide whether to notify higher-ups -- it is already higher up.

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Old 12-27-2007, 06:29 PM   #62
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I have had a horrendous boss before and I did everything I could to get another job....skipped my way out of that department and did let her know that she had NOTHING going for her as a human being. If I could have got away with punching her out....I would have.
As for you.....I think you should let HR know in your exit interview and that you should also talk to the Manager and let him know that what he is doing is not appreciated....I's not like they can fire you!
I am also sorry about the loss of your child and the way you handled it amazes me....I know I would not have been kind at all.

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Old 12-27-2007, 06:51 PM   #63
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I appreciate your concerns and grievances regarding your manager. Unfortunately, you are focusing on your exit interview to air your concerns and this is very much the wrong place and time.

(1) When your manager made the thoughtless and insensitive remarks at your daughters funeral, those remarks are best left alone as they are what they are, thoughtless and insensitive.

(2) When your manager touched you the first time, you should have told him calmly but firmly in public to not touch you and made a timely written account of the incident and filed it. If he did it a second time, you should have gone to HR and reported it immediately, bringing your record of the initial incident with you. By letting it go until your exit interview, you have greatly diminished your opportunity to achieve permanent corrective action. Exit interviews are frequently dumping grounds for airing personaility conflicts and even though this isn't the case in your situation, will probably result in no action unless there are following additional reports.

(3) Your manager's inappropriate atheist vs religious discussions are somewhere between (1) and (2) above. It sounded more like he was trying to make you an unwilling debater on an uncomfortable to discuss subject than actually harrass you. Still, for a manager to even mention religion on the job indicates the manager is dumb as a stump.

Sadly, you've kind of let the horse out of the barn at this point. So, at the exit interview, I'd mention calmly both the touching and religious discussion incidents and hand them a record of the dates, times and witnesses. Just say you thought they should know this so they can help Mr X improve his professionalism and that you expect no follow-up and consider it settled. They'll be watching him.

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Old 12-27-2007, 07:51 PM   #64
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Fisherman, I don't think you have anything to worry about. This situation has me so riled, that I'd be more than happy to kick his a$$et.

There's no need to complicate, our time is short..
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Thank you for all the great advice

Wow. I really appreciate the time and suggestions everyone gave. Tomorrow is the big day and I have narrowed the choices since an HR flunky will be doing the exit interview and any comments would be quickly forgotten.

I have had time to think and prepare more for ER and with that the issue carries less interest for me each day. I do admit to a few thoughts of physical payback since I could bench press him on a bad day! However I do believe I have enough self respect to let it go. I do know a senior HR manager very well outside of work and I may use the letter idea with him to address the situation. I will make the choice tomorrow.

Once again thanks to all of you for your input and I can say this will be behind me after tomorrow!

I have said it before and will say it again, The folks on this board and ESRBobs book gave me the final push to make this dream come true and I am thankful to each of you for that.

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