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Exit Interviews not on Paid Time
01-27-2015, 12:19 PM
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Exit Interviews not on Paid Time
Our upstream division is on hard times and laying people off. I heard a rumor today that people are being told to come in for their exit interviews on Monday when being RIF'd on Friday. I haven't check but I'm not sure it isn't a labor law violation. If it isn't, it comes across as tacky.
Any insights? Thoughts.
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01-27-2015, 12:24 PM
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Before I had my exit interview I had to pre-complete my timesheet on paper (but also continue to use the electronic timesheet submittal), so that on the day of my exit interview payroll actually 'cut' me an actual check as my last and final paycheck.
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01-27-2015, 12:37 PM
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Yeah, I'd be skipping that interview and emailing HR that I'm good, just send my final paycheck to me ASAP.
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01-27-2015, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUEGO
Yeah, I'd be skipping that interview and emailing HR that I'm good, just send my final paycheck to me ASAP.
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That's what I suggested to the person expecting to be laid off soon. He and I both want the COBRA which is the carrot to get us to willingly be mistreated.
I've got 18 more days "in-office" before my hoped for final day. My division is still doing well and only resignations are needing exit interviews. Maybe I'll get the royal treatment.
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01-27-2015, 12:45 PM
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You are never required to participate in any type of exit interview as a condition of the termination your emplloyment. Organizations cannot legally withhold your final cherck for any reason, including recovery of anything you may have stolen. Any and all benefits (i.e., COBRA, unemployment, final check including accrued vacation, etc.) legally owed you must also be provided to you.
In my experience, exit interviews are a complete waste of an exiting employee's time. I've never seen them used by any organization. Ever.
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01-27-2015, 12:54 PM
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I'd say sure. That will be $300.- per hour, pre paid, cash please. Seems to me at that point it becomes a consult as one is no longer an employee.
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01-27-2015, 01:04 PM
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While I didn't have a formal exit interview when I left, a Director for the customer I supported asked me to lunch the week after I left. He paid so I accepted the offer. Two other coworkers gave their notice shortly after I left. Our manager was removed from her position, so I think he listened to what we had to say. We'll never know if he made any changes from the feedback we each gave about him.
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01-27-2015, 01:26 PM
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What incentive do you have to do this?? What happens if you refuse, fire you? They can't fire you twice.
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01-27-2015, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jim584672
What incentive do you have to do this?? What happens if you refuse, fire you? They can't fire you twice.
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The only incentive I can see is to get the COBRA package and make sure the final paycheck goes to the right place.
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01-27-2015, 01:31 PM
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I had my exit interview on the second-to-last day I worked there. The HR flunkie had originally booked 30 minutes but I told him he'd better book an hour in a conference room. He got a little scared, he told me when we began our interview, because he thought I, a 23- year employee, might go a little nuts in some rant. I didn't, but I did have plenty to say.
In the interview, I made it clear that my issues were not with my immediate boss(es) or my coworkers. Instead, my issues were with corporate policies (about group health eligibility for part-timers, and about telecommuting) and the commute I so much despised, especially after the company relocated to New Jersey.
I wasn't expecting any policy changes or some desperate plea to not resign, but the exit interview was somewhat cathartic.
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01-27-2015, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jim584672
What incentive do you have to do this?? What happens if you refuse, fire you? They can't fire you twice.
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Really. And they're eligible for the COBRA anyway if they want it.
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01-27-2015, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt34
Really. And they're eligible for the COBRA anyway if they want it.
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Some companies will pay the premiums for COBRA as part of a severance package.
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01-27-2015, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash man
Some companies will pay the premiums for COBRA as part of a severance package.
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Ah. That would be an incentive to go to the exit interview then.
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01-27-2015, 02:43 PM
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Failure to appear will be noted on your permanent record.
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01-27-2015, 03:47 PM
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When I left 10 years ago the exit interview consisted of applying to turn off email and other accounts on the computer, turning in the corporate visa and id card, and was done by the group admin assistant.
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01-27-2015, 03:57 PM
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Funny. If you fall for an exit interview on your own time they've probably already taken advantage of you numerous times in the past. Personally once I leave the driveway you're in for $500 minimum.
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01-27-2015, 05:01 PM
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When I was laid off in 2010, I was read out at 9am. I was working until 2:30pm and in a meeting, I noted I needed to pack up to leave. I was paid through the end of the day. (5pm).
Last job, company went into bankruptcy. We were given a weeks notice of our last day. No real exit interview... other than group meetings and personal emails. Was done early.. so quit working. Company paid cobra for 4 months.
Present company (which I first turned down the job). Last day will be Feb 27th. I've been invited to go to the company location on my last week (I work remote) and do a core dump. My other major task is a retirement party.
You know... I have little to complain about on the exit interview area. I have worked with many good people.
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01-27-2015, 05:35 PM
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It was just part of the process. You had forms to fill out in advance. They took your CC, phone, laptop, acess badge, and escorted you out of the secured area. You could bring up issues either prior or on the spot. For many years the COO read every exit interview. Our VPs first question when someone left was what will they say on their exit. I was called to the principals office to explain the comments of the one guy I terminated. Unfortunately those days are a decade old.
The biggest thing I learned was the exact paperwork process to take 55 and terminated from service withdrawals. They had told me they did it monthly but withheld the paperwork to ensure you showed up.
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01-27-2015, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by calmloki
Failure to appear will be noted on your permanent record.
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This is not at all true. Where did you get such false and misleading information? Exit interview participation is never tracked. Barring non-compete agreements, organizations have no control over employees once they have leave. They aren't interested in you anyway.
Employees like to think their opinions impact management/leadership decisions. This is rarely, if ever, the case.
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01-27-2015, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Options
This is not at all true. Where did you get such false and misleading information? Exit interview participation is never tracked. Barring non-compete agreements, organizations have no control over employees once they have leave. They aren't interested in you anyway.
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I think Loki was making a joke.
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Originally Posted by Options
Employees like to think their opinions impact management/leadership decisions. This is rarely, if ever, the case.
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I agree completely. I've only once vented my spleen during an exit interview, and I regret it because I needlessly burned a bridge.
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