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Old 03-21-2018, 05:42 PM   #41
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My hope is that after the public humiliation, FB allows for more user control in security settings.

For example, right now, when going to the privacy settings, the highest level of security to not have others see my email and phone are "Friends". I'd prefer just me, but that isn't an option. I believe, one time, was able to not share email or phone, but FB likes to sneak changes on the side of less privacy. Hope this changes.

IMO, FB is in a pickle, having to choose between less sharing and hurting the goose that laid the golden egg. This could be fun to watch .
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I don't use FB but I know for some it is a great tool for keeping in touch. I also see it dropping farther more will follow jumping of the train.
I have no interest in FB and have never been on it except for a week many years ago when I quickly thought, like Betty White, that "it is a huge waste of time." I file this news under "things which happen to other people."
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Taking a step back, there is some humor. The folks addicted to FB willing to pimp out their family and friends' personal info in order to play an app like Candy Crush.

Maybe humor is not the right word ... .
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Most of DHs family keep in touch via Facebook. I made an account so that I could see what they are doing. I also use my account to join groups like Instant Pot and Air Fryer Recipes and Cornell bird cams.

I deliberately do not "friend" any of DHs family because I don't want them seeing what I'm doing on Facebook. One of DHs sisters loves to repost all kinds of political crap (yes, she reposted stuff that foreign entities put out to influence elections. If it's on the internet, it must be TRUE) that exists in her world. I'm not interested in what other people think about my interests.

I'm really surprised at what people post out in the public. I know you can change your settings and try to keep your own stuff in a small circle just among your friends, but I don't trust any of that. And I don't want to moderate something just to keep from offending certain relatives.

So I tell them that I don't have a Facebook. I've realized I'm a very private person, online and in real life.

Our 31 year old son, the freelance sound engineer, likes to post a pic from his gigs. He doesn't show who he's working for, just the venue and what mixer, mics or speakers he's using. Very interesting stuff and it's helpful to him in finding more work. He also travels a lot and I love when he posts pictures and comments on a trip. It's a nice way to see where he is and what he's doing.

Personally, I would never post a pic telling the world that I'm out of town!

Private - it works for me!
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:49 PM   #45
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Just now, I saw a headline on Bloomberg site: "Facebook Is Trying to Protect Bikini Photos, But It's Not Easy".

What bikinis? Whose bikinis? Maybe this is something I need to know.

Of course, I had to click on that to watch the video. Just some talking heads saying some boring stuff about user data privacy. Darn click bait!
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The fall for facebook's (and all the other social media) value will come out of nowhere as soon as sanity takes control.
Probably best that we not hold our breath for that!

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The issues with Facebook and social media taking it down again. I see this not being a good thing in many ways but an issue that does need to be taken care of.
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I send travel photos to just a few people via Apple's iMsg. It's much more secure and private, though certainly not 100% so. For most of my friends and family, they will have to wait until they visit me and see the photos in person.

It's stuff like this that keeps me with Apple. At least they try to keep my data private.

IMHO, Never logon to a non-FB site with your FB logon. Never.

Here's an article on how to beef up FB security from the Houston Chronicle. Note: They only allow three free articles a month to non subscribers.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/tec..._campaign=tbgr
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I keep hearing a few people say they wish FB would go broke and vanish. Even though I don't use I see the implications if that would happen. Things would cascade in the tech world not good for anyone even if a person isn't a player in the stock market world.

The problems need fixing not destroying the social media world. It is here and we need it to operate these days.
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I deliberately do not "friend" any of DHs family because I don't want them seeing what I'm doing on Facebook. One of DHs sisters loves to repost all kinds of political crap (yes, she reposted stuff that foreign entities put out to influence elections. If it's on the internet, it must be TRUE) that exists in her world. I'm not interested in what other people think about my interests.
I have one relative who was probably in the target audience for the Russian hackers. He was posting material that I found offensive, and which looked very fake to me. I didn’t want my account to be associated with something unsavoury, so I blocked him. Now I’m glad I did.

I would miss Facebook if I deleted my account. It’s been a great way to find and keep in touch with old friends. But I have tightened my privacy settings. I’m keeping just one app, Words with Friends. I will not click on any quizzes or third party sites. In fact, I may unfriend anyone who posts them. If that is not enough, I may deactivate my account temporarily. If enough of us do these things, the platform will adapt. Otherwise it will be toast.
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Facebook must monetize something in order to operate as a viable, profitable company. Whether it be data mining, face recognition data, location data or whatever, this information is collected and sold. I'm sure this forum data mines, just to pay the bills of operating a website. There is an ad right now for Met Life for auto insurance. Is it because I mentioned I own 3 vehicles on this site? Or do they assume I own a car, and hope I will change insurance on my home and 3 rental buildings, my umbrellas or consider an annuity(gasp!)? For the most part, I'd say there are a lot of folks with a lot of discretionary income. Why wouldn't we not be targets?
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Old 03-22-2018, 01:38 PM   #52
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Just now, I saw a headline on Bloomberg site: "Facebook Is Trying to Protect Bikini Photos, But It's Not Easy".

What bikinis? Whose bikinis? Maybe this is something I need to know.

Of course, I had to click on that to watch the video. Just some talking heads saying some boring stuff about user data privacy. Darn click bait!
The morale is: never post photos of your wife in a bikini.

And that goes double for photos of yourself in a bikini.
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Only created an account to get updates about family members. Never posted anything. Now I'm pottering about Spain in my motorhome and had not checked my feed for over a month. No new posts when checked just now. Might as well log out from this mess permanently.


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I personally find FB terrifying.

Imagine Europe about 75 years ago: "We know where you live, where you work, what religion you are, who your friends are, what organizations you belong to, what political party you belong, when you meet....and please, show us pictures of your little children."
So true! And if a twitler in chief dislike you and come after you they know all your friends - nowhere to hide.

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Just now, I saw a headline on Bloomberg site: "Facebook Is Trying to Protect Bikini Photos, But It's Not Easy".
Personally I don't find pics of Zuckerberg in a bikni interesting.
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I keep hearing a few people say they wish FB would go broke and vanish. Even though I don't use I see the implications if that would happen. Things would cascade in the tech world not good for anyone even if a person isn't a player in the stock market world.

The problems need fixing not destroying the social media world. It is here and we need it to operate these days.
I wouldn't want FB to bust and go belly up. If they just give better filtering controls to the uses, I think that would help a lot instead of the Mickey Mousing they do, adding an "improvement" and leaving folks to figure out if they is something really beneficial or not.

Should FB take a big hit and then other social media and tech companies follow. That sounds a lot like this generation's dot.com bubble.
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Personally I don't find pics of Zuckerberg in a bikni interesting.
If that's what it was about, I am glad I missed it.
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My wife just lost her niece, so we went on FB and there she was with 45 "friends". I just hit another person with 741 "friends" Really?
I have 3 friends, no personal information, and no picture of myself..
My fun nowadays is to go to "Find Friends" and delete ALL of them
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Steve Jobs on privacy way back in 2010:



Note the reference to some guy named Mark who is in the audience.
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I deactivated my FB account in 2016. Haven’t missed it a bit. Sometimes I want to scream when DW starts talking about something she found on her feed.
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I think a FB flaw is the assumption that certain acquaintances will be friends for life. There is a good reason why I have left certain friends behind as I moved through life. If I didn't leave them behind, I don't need FB to find them.
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In the process of deleting all posts over 90 days old. Just because. Downloaded an archive first. Evidently back when I used FB on an Android phone, FB scooped up all of my SMS and phone call data. WTF?
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