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04-09-2016, 10:17 AM
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Flash on Flash
Adobe Flash seems to have had a problem. Updates are urged to avoid ransomware. See this article:
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/04/a...at/#more-34432
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Adobe said a “critical” bug exists in all versions of Flash including Flash versions 21.0.0.197 and lower (older) across a broad range of systems, including Windows, Mac, Linux and Chrome OS. Find out if you have Flash and if so what version by visiting this link.
In a security advisory, the software maker said it is aware of reports that the vulnerability is being actively exploited on systems running Windows 7 and Windows XP with Flash Player version 20.0.0.306 and earlier.
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04-09-2016, 10:19 AM
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We uninstalled Flash on all our computers over a year ago. It's just too dangerous.
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04-09-2016, 10:51 AM
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On my Linux system (Xubuntu 14.04), it looks like I have the "Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin" installed.
The "adobe-flashplugin" shows as 'Not Installed'.
I'm not sure if that means this is not a concern for me?
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04-09-2016, 12:07 PM
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Better lucky than good. I'm on Win 10.
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04-09-2016, 12:50 PM
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Flash has a history of troubles like this. Why I haven't installed it.
Also, it avoids certain types of ads.
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04-09-2016, 02:08 PM
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What is the disadvantage of not having Flash working with Windows 7?
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04-09-2016, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by audreyh1
We uninstalled Flash on all our computers over a year ago. It's just too dangerous.
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If I absolutely need to see flash content, I load up IE or chrome which have implemented their own renderers. Most of the time, I just move on.
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04-09-2016, 05:08 PM
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Flash content is blocked in my browser until I click on the video. I may update a few times each year.
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04-09-2016, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by redduck
What is the disadvantage of not having Flash working with Windows 7?
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I'm wondering that too, is it just that you miss out on youtube and the news site videos ?
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04-10-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by redduck
What is the disadvantage of not having Flash working with Windows 7?
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I'd also ask, what are viable alternative flash software to Adobe Flash for those that wish to stay away from the risk?
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04-10-2016, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by easysurfer
I'd also ask, what are viable alternative flash software to Adobe Flash for those that wish to stay away from the risk?
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Few websites use flash anymore. It tends to be the legacy stuff. I do fine without it. I'm on a Mac but I doubt that makes a difference.
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04-10-2016, 09:43 AM
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Since we discussed Adobe Flash in a previous thread about 6 months ago, I set the "ask to activate" in my Firefox plugin. Here is a simple way to proceed in Firefox: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...k-play-firefox
It seems maybe a few times a week I click on the link to allow Flash to activate and view the contents. I don't know if I'd be out of luck should I just uninstall Flash.
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04-10-2016, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by easysurfer
I'd also ask, what are viable alternative flash software to Adobe Flash for those that wish to stay away from the risk?
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As a consumer of Flash, you're limited to the file format sent to your browser from the web site. As LSBCAL mentions, if you use Firefox, there is a builtin way to block the Flash, until you ok playback.
Each browser you use may have a different approach.
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04-10-2016, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lsbcal
Since we discussed Adobe Flash in a previous thread about 6 months ago, I set the "ask to activate" in my Firefox plugin. Here is a simple way to proceed in Firefox: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...k-play-firefox
It seems maybe a few times a week I click on the link to allow Flash to activate and view the contents. I don't know if I'd be out of luck should I just uninstall Flash. |
Thank you for the link. I just used it to disable Flash in Mozilla, and then did the same in my other browsers. Better safe than sorry. 
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04-10-2016, 11:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by target2019
As a consumer of Flash, you're limited to the file format sent to your browser from the web site. As LSBCAL mentions, if you use Firefox, there is a builtin way to block the Flash, until you ok playback.
Each browser you use may have a different approach.
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Thanks for the info. For me I use Maxthon as the browser and looks like it uses Adobe Flash. But from the original post, looks like I'm okay (as of now) with Win 10 as the OS.
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04-10-2016, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunset
I'm wondering that too, is it just that you miss out on youtube and the news site videos ?
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youtube is html5, so that's ok. Most major news site videos also switched over. Not all of them.
So in general you are fine. Much different from the late nineties!
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04-10-2016, 03:09 PM
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Note that enabling "Click to activate" may not offer full protection since 1) the browser might start downloading the video before displaying it, and 2) the virus may exploit a weakness in that downloading process.
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04-11-2016, 05:27 AM
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Which browsers download before 'click to activate'? Would surprise me if that opens up any vulnerability.
Just curious (and also to warn my friends).
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04-11-2016, 02:25 PM
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I had installed flash for some reason a while back, and now can no longer remember the reason, so I uninstalled on my iMac.
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04-11-2016, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Totoro
Which browsers download before 'click to activate'? Would surprise me if that opens up any vulnerability.
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I don't know, but the browser's Flash plugin might begin to download content so that it has something to show as soon as you click Play or Activate. Many virii exploit a software's weakness for unexpected data, and such an exploit could easily be placed at the start of the content, the portion buffered in advance of Play or Activate. I don't know this is a risk in this particular case, but the remediation advice suggested upgrading not merely "avoid activating".
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