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Old 11-13-2011, 05:20 PM   #261
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People hear what they expect to hear.
Yes, that's very true. I think that's why most people don't even notice the kinds of errors I displayed above.

I do it, too. I record my piano lessons, and when I listen back, I've noticed that sometimes what I remember hearing is different from what the teacher actually said.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:11 PM   #262
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Are you guys suggesting that 'Rocket Surgery' is somehow incorrect?

Wow..is MY face red.
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Another example:
"But Obama also conceded there was much more work to do, adding "I don't think the country is stronger yet then it was when the economy was still booming and we didn't have the ". . .

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...?iref=obinsite

Either the president made a glaring grammatical error or he was misquoted by CNN Congressional Producer Deirdre Walsh.

Where I went to school that would have come back with a big red circle around it, even outside of English class.

Maybe they were thinking about rocket surgery or brain science.
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"But Obama also conceded there was much more work to do, adding "I don't think the country is stronger yet then it was when the economy was still booming and we didn't have the ". . .
You mean the "then" instead of "than?" If Obama was speaking, there's no way to know whether he said "then" or "than," so I assume the reporter just wrote the wrong one.
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The one that bugs me is when people use "myself" instead of "me".
I'm sure they just do it to avoid having to know whether they should use "I" or "me."

When someone says something like "Tom and me went to the store" I want to ask whether they would ever say "Me went to the store." People say "He asked Tom and I for some help" but would never say "He asked I for some help."

In elementary school I was taught to just eliminate the "Tom and" part to figure out which to use, but I found that that takes too long. If you're in the middle of a sentence, there isn't enough time to reword it in your head.

I find that it's quicker to just think about whether I'm dealing with the subject (e.g. Tom and I are going to do something) or the object (e.g. Something is going to be done to Tom and Me).

But the order of the words (whether you say "Me and Tom" or "Tom and me") isn't rocket surgery, so I don't know why anyone gets that wrong ("Me and Tom went to the store").

Of course, these are all arbitrary conventions...
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You mean the "then" instead of "than?" If Obama was speaking, there's no way to know whether he said "then" or "than," so I assume the reporter just wrote the wrong one.
It is most likely the reporter got it wrong.

So many people write this way that it makes me wonder if they know the difference between then and than. It seems like most of the time when the wrong word is used, "then" is used where "than" should have been used.

When they speak, are they speaking "then" or "than"? Likely "then". That would likely be what they are thinking , also, and they would probably write "then" where they should write "than".

You're/your is also common. It seems like the people who get this wrong tend to use "your" where they should use "you're".

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DW uses "six of one, half dozen of another" several times a week. In a conversation yesterday, she must have used it half dozen times. Other than that, she's perfect.
Are you sure it wasn't six times?

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A few times I've said "It's not rocket surgery," but I don't think anyone noticed, and if they did, they probably thought I just made a mistake.
Brain scientist doesn't have the same ring to it...
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Of course, these are all arbitrary conventions...
Still, you don't have to be Alfred Einstein to learn them.
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But the order of the words (whether you say "Me and Tom" or "Tom and me") isn't rocket surgery, so I don't know why anyone gets that wrong ("Me and Tom went to the store").

Of course, these are all arbitrary conventions...
Weeeellll....it's not arbitrary if Tom is a rocket surgeon. And my friend Tom is a rocket surgeon!
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Still, you don't have to be Alfred Einstein to learn them.
Alfred? Didn't do well in school, I heard tell.

His brother Albert, on the other hand......
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He lowered himself from the horse gingerly. Gingerly is not an adverb, it is an adjective. Should be "He lowered himself from the horse in a gingerly manner".
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He lowered himself from the horse gingerly. Gingerly is not an adverb, it is an adjective. Should be "He lowered himself from the horse in a gingerly manner".
According to dictionary.com, gingerly is an adverb:
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It means "with great care or caution; warily."
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He lowered himself from the horse gingerly. Gingerly is not an adverb, it is an adjective.
Perhaps in this case it is a proper name. The error could be simply one of capitalization, as you show correctly in your second sentence above.

Note: Unlike the song, this was not a horse with no name.
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I think you mispelled grammer...
OK, this is hilarious!

Inspired by your riposte, I did a google search on grammar versus grammer which turned some pretty funny sites, but the best one of all was Facebook offering to connect you with people who spell grammar as grammer!

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Community. Want to like or comment on this page? Want to interact with People who spell Grammar as Grammer? You need to join Facebook first.....

Incredible!

Oh, and the ad assigner (or whatever that kind of software is called) already found the page which proudly displays an ad for the book English Grammar for Dummies!

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I probably told this story, but I was involved in creating an educational computer game called "The Grammar Examiner."

When getting ready to ship, we discovered that one of the review blurbs on the box had the word spelled as "grammer.". We solved it with a sticker.
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According to dictionary.com, gingerly is an adverb:
Gingerly | Define Gingerly at Dictionary.com

It means "with great care or caution; warily."
You're right, of course, W2R. And, it turns out that the word "gingerly" can be used as an adjective as well. And, apparently, there is an adjective "ginger". I found the following discussion of "gingerly " at "languagehat.com", which I found very interesting. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- GINGER(LY). Geoff Nunberg has a post at Language Log on the word gingerly: a NY Times story on Falluja included the statement "it was a gingerly first step," which pleased him by its proper use of gingerly as an adjective [thanks to Tim May for catching my original misstatement!]; then he had second thoughts about his idea of proper use: Maybe I should throw in the towel on this one, I thought, but then began to wonder whether there was ever actually a towel for me to be holding in the first place. In defense of the usage, gingerly began its life as an adverb. It was formed from the adjective ginger, "dainty or delicate," and the OED gives citations of its use as an adverb right up to the end of the 19th century -- the adjectival use appeared in the 16th century. And unlike most other adjectives in -ly, like friendly or portly, gingerly has an adverbial meaning, so that it can only apply to nominals denoting actions (like "step" in Ekholm and Schmidt's article); otherwise it requires a clumsy periphrasis like "in a gingerly way." Moreover, Merriam-Webster's exhaustive Dictionary of English Usage gives no indication that anybody has ever objected to the use of the word as an adverb. But the adjective ginger has been obsolete for a long time, and it's notable that nobody is tempted to back-form it anew, as in "his ginger handling of the question," which is what you'd expect if the adverbial gingerly were really analyzed as composed of the root ginger plus the derivational suffix -ly. What we seem to have here, rather, is a haplology (or "haplogy," as some linguists can't resist calling it), the process which gave us Latin nutrix in place of the predicted *nutritrix and which leads people to say missippi instead of mississippi. Gingerly is just the way the mental lexicon's gingerlyly comes out on the tongue or the page. That's natural enough, but there's something to be said for insisting that the word be used as an adjective, as one of the small obeisances we make to the capriciousness of grammar. (Followup here: it seems people do in fact use the back-formation ginger as an adjective, though not very often.) While I love the capriciousness of grammar, I think this battle has been lost, tradition giving way to convenience. ------------------------------------
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I saw one on one of those humor sites the other day where a girl posted that she had to get her kid out of the house to play, as he was becoming "cost of phobic".
I collect homophones as a minor hobby, but this one was especially awesome.
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I saw one on one of those humor sites the other day where a girl posted that she had to get her kid out of the house to play, as he was becoming "cost of phobic".
I collect homophones as a minor hobby, but this one was especially awesome.
On Kijiji today someone is advertising an outdoor table with 'Rod Iron' legs.

Oh, what language hath wrought.
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On Kijiji today someone is advertising an outdoor table with 'Rod Iron' legs.
Brings back memories of this classic thread: Seen on Craigslist
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Brings back memories of this classic thread: Seen on Craigslist
Before my time here......maybe the seller traverses the continent selling Rod Iron items?
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