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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???
Old 04-16-2007, 10:03 PM   #21
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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???

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What is so good about the hardiplank that justifies the required paint jobs?
Same guys that make Hardi backer board for ceramic tile.

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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???
Old 04-16-2007, 11:54 PM   #22
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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???

Not sure why I'm even bothering to post, since I'm just putting in yet another vote for Hardiplank.

Stuff is great, comes pre-primered, and takes paint very well. I do believe some homes require structural improvements as the boards are significantly heavier than wood/vinyl/aluminum, so you'll want to check that out.
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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???

Guys, as a new homeowner help me out here. We're up for new siding in the next few years. How much would this stuff run me to replace all the siding on s 2 story 2700sqft house? Just a ballpark because I literally have no idea.

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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???

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How much would this stuff run me to replace all the siding on s 2 story 2700sqft house?
The per sq ft prices I quoted in my post above were from an August 2003 Consumer Reports article and were "based on the 3,200 square feet of siding needed to cover the average new 2,300-square-foot house. Expect to add at least $3,000 for painting or staining. You’ll also pay extra for removing old siding and other related work."

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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???

Earlier posters said that Hardiplank is now available pre-painted. We got ours 10 years ago pre-primed. DH once commented that even if pre-painted he recommended that siding be painted again after install for the best appearance. His standards are VERY high, others may not be so picky.

Now to the material under the siding... my DH is not a fan of most building wraps used by contractors under siding. He recommends asphalt paper or a self-sealing breathable product (Gortex(t) characteristics). It may be more expensive but moisture penetration is a major cause of mold and dry rot. And while you are at it.. make sure that your windows are properly flashed. This is the ideal time to address this.

If the building envelope isn't in great condition all the interior finishes are like lipstick on a pig.

FYI, not only did we use Hardiplank on our home, DH has specified it for our daughter's home that is currently under construction. She is spending a huge chunk of change on the home in a very nice Silicon Valley neighborhood. The choice of Hardiplank was driven by the product features.
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Re: Getting New Siding..........Aluminum or Vinyl???

You CAN get it prepainted, but they're going to nick and scratch it up during shipping, delivery and installation and you're going to have to paint it again anyhow. So I wouldnt pay the premium.

One suggestion if you go ahead with it is to ask specifically for them to cut it with the power shears instead of a circular saw.

Cutting it with the shears leaves some nice easy to throw away shards. The saw makes a lot of fine dust that takes a long time to go away and is moderately lethal if inhaled. Just like breathing concrete out of the bag.

For installation, you have the choice of installing trim over the hardi or installing your trim and then running the hardi butted up against the trim. I recommend the latter...put in your harditrim, caulk the crap out of all the seams with silicone, then run the plank up flush with the trim (to manufacturers shrink/expand recommended gapping), then caulk the seams a second time. Your maintenance is now painting every now and then.

We also used Hardibacker on our shower and flooring. Best backerboard out there.

As far as benefits, its concrete board...doesnt rot, split, crack, warp, superior sound insulation, holds paint 1.5-2x longer than wood, can be cut/nailed/screwed just like wood so you dont need a lot of extra knowledge to install it.
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