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04-26-2008, 11:02 PM
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Global Cooling
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04-26-2008, 11:16 PM
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Its ok. The great Al Gore will save us.
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04-26-2008, 11:16 PM
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Here in western Canada,we've had snow from Nov. 1 until about Mar. 20. That was my 1st Alpine drive. My second was about April 10. Every other day was cold/snow/rain/shitty. May 1 is approaching and my Minx has never waited this long to be liberated from winter storage.
If global cooling continues, there may be fire sale on Rootes vehicles unless Rootes made a snowmobile.
Damn, this spring sucx!
EDIT TO ADD
Wrong forum, For some reason (merlot maybe) I thought I was at SAOCA.ORG. Sorry folks
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04-27-2008, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: S.W. Minnesota
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Notmuchlonger
Its ok. The great Al Gore will save us.
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Will he help shovel my driveway?
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04-27-2008, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by waltwill8
Will he help shovel my driveway?
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Yes. He invented the snow shovel.
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04-27-2008, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samclem
Yes. He invented the snow shovel.
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I think it was the pooper scooper...
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04-27-2008, 04:17 PM
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According to NOAA, this spring hasn't been especially cold. Large amounts of snow reflect high precipitation, not necessarily abnormally low temperatures. December-February were the coolest in 6 or 7 years, not 600 or even 60 - but still the 16th warmest on record - and March was the second warmest on record.
NCDC: Climate of 2008 - February
NCDC: Climate of 2008 - March
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04-27-2008, 06:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HFWR
I think it was the pooper scooper...
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Same deal -- just different 'stuff.'
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04-27-2008, 08:50 PM
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The perception in Chicago since October was many less sunny days and more snow and lower temperatures (six full months between 70 degrees--not even a freak warm day in there) than average--and the perception was correct. SAD for everyone. Finally over but snow flurries in the forecast for tomorrow. Yuck.
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04-27-2008, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantuar
According to NOAA, this spring hasn't been especially cold. Large amounts of snow reflect high precipitation, not necessarily abnormally low temperatures. December-February were the coolest in 6 or 7 years, not 600 or even 60 - but still the 16th warmest on record - and March was the second warmest on record.
NCDC: Climate of 2008 - February
NCDC: Climate of 2008 - March
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You mean just because we experienced one of the longest, coldest winters in my memory in the PNW the world is actually warmer. God I hate it when anecdotal evidence gets stomped by facts...
DD
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04-27-2008, 10:04 PM
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Weather <> climate
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04-28-2008, 02:51 AM
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It is easy to poke fun at. But if those things happen, it will not be so funny.
We need to take action. Better to be safe than sorry. With China and India ramping up, pollution will only get worse.
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04-28-2008, 09:43 AM
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As Gertrude Stein said (on a different subject) "Ther is no there, there"
Doubling CO2 from 250 ppm to 500ppm MEANS from .00025% to .00050%. It's a trace gas! (I may have the wrong amount of zeros in the numbers - itty bitty amounts are hard on the old brain)
Water vapor is somewhere around 90% of the greenhouse effect, depending on whether it is humidity (gee, it feels hot), or clouds (feels colder, doesn't it)
If the tree huggers would let the trees vote, they'd vote for MORE co2!
Whew, that felt good.
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04-28-2008, 04:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chinaco
It is easy to poke fun at. But if those things happen, it will not be so funny.
We need to take action. Better to be safe than sorry. With China and India ramping up, pollution will only get worse.
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Educate yourself before you commit to action that you may later regret. Fear is your worst enemy.
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04-28-2008, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoutDone
Educate yourself before you commit to action that you may later regret. Fear is your worst enemy.
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Back at ya. but replace the words [action with inaction] and [fear with denial].
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04-28-2008, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kumquat
...May 1 is approaching and my Minx has never waited this long to be liberated from winter storage....
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What year of Hillman? I had a 1959 Minx (my first car) back in 1970; frog green and re-wired with all the same color wire.
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Spin Cooling Into Warming
05-01-2008, 12:46 PM
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Spin Cooling Into Warming
These "scientists" crack me up! Now they try to spin cooling into warming. "It's just one part of the cycle", they now exclaim. Al forgot to get the headline writers on board:
TinyURL.com - shorten that long URL into a Tiny URL
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05-01-2008, 12:58 PM
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I'd certainly expect some decade-long up and down cycles. That says nothing about the long term trend.
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05-01-2008, 01:17 PM
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I suspect I speak for a lot of Texans when I say I'm rooting for global cooling, at least during the summer.
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05-01-2008, 02:02 PM
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So all you guys claiming GW is 'over' or disproven because it was colder where you live over the last few months, does that mean if there is a three month warming trend you will be the first yelling about GW happening??
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