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Old 10-27-2011, 01:05 PM   #41
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I finally found a date for the introduction of "have got". According to Frederic T. Wood, it goes back to the early 16th century: ‘Have got’ as a Substitute for ‘Have’
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:25 PM   #42
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Here's a good one. It is in my new pamphlet from Anthem Blue Cross:

"$4,100 per Year for a single Insured in a Policyholder only contract. Once your Deductible has been satisfied, no further Deductible will be required for the remainder of the year."

Is there any way in which "no further deductible will be required" makes any sense?

And what is with the randomized capitalization of different words?
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:40 PM   #43
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And what is with the randomized capitalization of different words?
....because there is usually a 'definition of words' page...that's my guess.

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Glossary, yeah that's it......
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Is there any way in which "no further deductible will be required" makes any sense?
Sure. Since "deductible" refers to a payment you make, it means you will not be required to make any such further payment.
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Sure. Since "deductible" refers to a payment you make, it means you will not be required to make any such further payment.
"Deductible" is singular, though it could consist of multiple payments. But by definition, once you've paid the deductible, there will be no more deductible...
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OK, maybe. I always think of "deductible" as a threshold or limit.

This is what it says on the sheet with the new insurance card:

"Your card will reflect your name, but can be used by any dependents enrolled in your plan."
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OK, maybe. I always think of "deductible" as a threshold or limit.
So do I -- or, rather, so did I. I just now made up the theory that "deductible refers to a payment you make" in order to make sense of the passage you quoted. It's not something I knew independently.
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So do I -- or, rather, so did I. I just now made up the theory that "deductible refers to a payment you make" in order to make sense of the passage you quoted. It's not something I knew independently.

The problem with language... different people think different thing with the same words....

I did not think of it as a threshold since you are always told 'you have to pay your deductible' when dealing with the docs... IOW, it was your share of the bill...
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I've donated my body to the local medical school; Mother did so also.
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She donated your body?
There is a generalization of this "sloppy identity" between anaphoric expression (here "do so", meaning "donate her body to the local medical school") and antecedent expression used to interpret it (here "donate my body to the local medical school") which says that pronominal expressions which have local antecedents don't matter to the relation of identity required between antecedent and pro-form. So in this case, since "my" in "donate my body to the local medical school" has the local antecedent "I" (subject of the sentence), and "her" in the interpretation "donate her body to the local medical school" has the local antecedent "Mother" (subject of the sentence), the difference between "my" and "her" doesn't matter to the relationship of grammatical identity between antecedent "donate my body ..." and the interpretation of "do so" as "donate her body ...".
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Or, in simple terms -
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I've donated my body to the local medical school; Mother did so also.
- 'Mother did also', could be read as:

'Mother also donated her body to the local medical school' (context tells us this is the correct meaning)

or

'Mother also donated my body to the local medical school' (possible, but not likely, based on context, plus it may be illegal!)


At which point, DW says "You know what I meant!'.

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Or, in simple terms - - 'Mother did also', could be read as:

'Mother also donated her body to the local medical school' (context tells us this is the correct meaning)

or

'Mother also donated my body to the local medical school' (possible, but not likely, based on context, plus it may be illegal!)
That's right. (One might also wonder why it works this way.) By the way, Wikipedia has an entry for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloppy_identity.
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