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Old 08-01-2006, 11:58 AM   #41
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When people start getting on my case about having kids I usually respond along the lines of...

"Well, I'm 36 now, so even if I bagged some honey tonight and got her knocked up, the soonest I could have one would be 37. And that means the damn things wouldn't be out of the house until I'm well into my 50's!"

That usually either shuts people up or starts them laughing. But either way it usually changes the subject.
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Re: Have You Ever Faced Intolerance...
Old 08-01-2006, 12:07 PM   #42
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I cant tolerate your intolerance of intolerance.

You probably have a ponytail too.
I decided on a new credo to live by:

Intolerance of all things.

Now I can't even tolerate that credo.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:44 PM   #43
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I knew I didn't want kids from the time I was a teenager, spent a lot of years fending off questions about why I didn't have kids. The one that worked the best and still does is " I am/was unable to have children" , when they talk about medical advances I remind them that in my prime years they didn't have the medical advances of today. Usually shuts them right up.

It wasn't until I was 37 that I found out I would have had a very very difficult time concieving, so I wasn't really fibbing to everyone.
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Now I can't even tolerate that credo.* *
An offshoot of Buddhism?

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You ever been poor? Really poor? People look down their noses at you, and you can develop an inferior complex, if you let it. Or, you could use it to inspire you to get richer or as I deem it, to get independent. Always use intolerance as a motivator to get better, not to get even.
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:27 PM   #46
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You ever been poor? Really poor? People look down their noses at you, [/i]

HA , I've gotten that from people I can buy and sell because dont look the part.

Or, you could use it to inspire you to get richer or as I deem it, to get independent.

Are the means opportunity and good luck necessary for this always there for everyone in every situation? If not, it's all smoke.

[i]Always use intolerance as a motivator to get better, not to get even.
Nice platitute monica. That's just what they want you to think.


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When people start getting on my case about having kids I usually respond along the lines of...
"Well, I'm 36 now, so even if I bagged some honey tonight and got her knocked up, the soonest I could have one would be 37. And that means the damn things wouldn't be out of the house until I'm well into my 50's!"
That usually either shuts people up or starts them laughing. But either way it usually changes the subject.
In a few more years you can tell people that you don't want to be sending your kids to college while you're drawing Social Security.

An older friend of mine (age 62) loves his kids but says that he's really going to hit it off big with his own grandkids. He claims that by the time his kids (now pre-teens) produce his grandkids he'll also be wearing diapers and eating baby food...

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I knew I didn't want kids from the time I was a teenager, spent a lot of years fending off questions about why I didn't have kids. The one that worked the best and still does is " I am/was unable to have children" , when they talk about medical advances I remind them that in my prime years they didn't have the medical advances of today. Usually shuts them right up.
It wasn't until I was 37 that I found out I would have had a very very difficult time concieving, so I wasn't really fibbing to everyone.
After sea duty as a nuclear submarine junior officer, spouse and I went to shore duty at the Naval Postgraduate School and thought that the Monterey Peninsula is the world's largest adult playground. Others must've felt that way too because some quadruplex Navy houses would have 10-15 kids playing in the common yard.

The first weekend party we were invited to was a baby shower (which made up about 75% of NPS's social events). As spouse & I headed for the beer keg, a patrolling pack of wives (no guys) snapped up my spouse and hauled her back to the baby table for interrogation. After I finally drew two beers (gotta have priorities) I headed back over there just as the inquisition broke up. Spouse didn't have much to say but I had to reverse course empty-handed for more beer.

At that time I was the only submariner at the school so I regularly got strange questions from people who were curious about the force. So I wasn't surprised the following Monday to get a question from a classmate (who'd had duty on a nuclear aircraft carrier) asking me how much radiation exposure I'd had. (Only a couple hundred millirem gamma.) His only comment was "Hmm, thanks, I was wondering about that." Later a couple more surface nukes asked me the same question, and that afternoon I even got it from a Marine.

I recounted the story to spouse that night and she said "Uhm, that might be my fault." The other wives had been relentless about having kids: "You've been married for six months and you're not pregnant yet?!?" "What were you two doing when you were driving cross-country?" "Are you medically OK?" "Do either of you have any other kids?" "How many kids are you going to have while you're here?" Desperately thirsty for a frosty beverage, spouse had blurted out "He's had a lot of radiation exposure and he needs some recovery time, OK?"

Sometimes I think back on those halcyon days and wonder if we shoulda quit while we were ahead...
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Under ideal circumstances, I would've liked to have had 2.1 children. But since my first marriage was "less than ideal", we had one. Some days I'd like to throw him back, but... :P

Wasn't really looking to have more after that, and didn't. No regrets...
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I can only recall one event in over 20 years, and I can't judge if it's intolerance or discrimination or just plain belief in something different by the other person.

I was in a small town in northwestern Nebraska, going for an MBA from a small state college so that I could keep legal immigration status.* I was renting the basement apartment of a sweet 80+ year-old lady.* Her son-in-law would come in periodically to do repairs.* He was a slight man, soft-spoken, not threatening at all.*

One time, he came to repair something and engaged me in conversation and asked if I were dating.* I was, so I said yes and he asked if the guy was American and I said yes.* And then he told me about God not wanting races to mix, and that's the reason why there were all these geographical obstacles--mountains, rivers, oceans, etc.* (Silently, I was trying to decide if I should ask him why God allowed us to invent carts, cars, planes, trains, etc. but I decided to just let him go on.)* He went on about what would my then-BF's and my offspring be if we had one.* (Human?) Then, he rhetorically asked if there were species of animals that mixed, and truly not knowing much about biology as a business major, I said what about dogs?* I can't recall how the conversation ended but eventually he went away.

My then-BF was steamed when I told him about this, but I dissuaded him from talking to the guy because the sem was ending and I'd be moving out anyway.* Also, I just started thinking of what an uncle of mine would do in such a situation.* (I look up to this uncle.)* I decided that he would kind of think "I am glad that I know better than that man."

Other minor intolerance I've encountered were just in the form of comments not about me but other officemates from other countries who'd bring food for lunch that smelled a little stronger or fishier than standard American fare.* I would always feel uncomfortable even if I were not the subject because I was a foreigner, too, and loved strange, smelly food.* I remember my aunt from the US visiting us in the Philippines when I was just a child and still living there.* She announced that Americans are very sensitive to smell.* Our neighborhood in Manila was (still is) a hodge-podge of smells that our noses had become desensitized but here in the US, there are not very many bad smells.

So, there you have them, my intolerance experiences--intolerance of racial intermixing and intolerance of smells.
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If you ask me, intolerance smells pretty funny.
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Can't say I ever faced intolerance. Pretty much you average white guy but I was born in Utah and mom's side of the family was mormon. Believe it or not when I first moved to CA I heard something to the effect that "Some of my best friends are Mormon" a number of times. Almost cracked up every time I heard it.

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Hmmm

I am intorlerant - at the ripe old age of 63 I recognize that my brain sterotypes - until additional facts roll in based on personal experience et al.

Having seen/heard/various types and variety over the years - the one I thought was interesting was being instructed on behavior/when I shouldn't be there in certain Black areas of New Orleans back in the 70's.

Pecking orders - Black social strata in N.O. (Jim), Good and bad Orientals(Tuck), Hispanic groups(Ramon) - over the years.
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A lot of cultural differences around here are mistaken for intolerance. A local professor actually writes a weekly newspaper column on the subject.

One friend is easily incensed by "improper" grammar & vocabulary. She tends to judge people by the degree to which they're able to spell correctly and to sling the King's English. Yet the Hawaiian language doesn't have many "Western" grammar concepts, and local pidgin is an even more stripped-down creole. So when she encounters pidgin she decides that the person is uneducated-- and she somehow feels that she's being disrespected when people won't address her "in propah English". I'm just glad that a local radio comedian ended his hilarious "Eh, brah-nics" language skits ("Ebonics"-- get it?) before she moved here.

Some Mainland employees are greatly annoyed by Hawaii nepotism. Yet many Asian cultures would prefer to hire a family member (or at least a distant cousin) who owes them loyalty (and can presumably be trained) instead of a total stranger who's happened to acquire a Harvard MBA, a couple decades' experience, and a bunch of other non-essential skills. Good business sense or intolerance?

For our first couple years here, our neighbors rarely accepted our social invitations and didn't invite us. It turns out that they wouldn't dream of forcing us to choose between socializing with our family and spending time with neighbors/friends. Once they understood that we had no local family then the invitations started flowing. Either that or they knew that I was a submariner and it took a while to warm up to me.

Hawaii is considered a very small place in comparison to Mainland locales and your words have a way of returning to haunt you. Even the younger people hesitate to castigate in absentia and older people usually "no talk stink". Sometimes this lets a problem continue for far longer than it should, especially in the legislative bodies.

I grew up in a somewhat outspoken environment where concepts like tact and discretion were seldom practiced. If someone wants something from me, I kinda expect them to ask me for it. If I offer something to someone, I used to expect a definite answer. But in many places here the "no" answer is more tactfully expressed as "Oh, thank you, you're so kind, I really appreciate that, that's very thoughtful of you." About the sixth or seventh time I heard that it occurred to me that I was hearing "No thanks." And in return, if your request is going to receive a negative response, you seldom hear the "no" word. Instead you're likely to hear "Oh, you know what, Mr. Nords?"

No complaints. I was at a school event a couple years ago and overheard a grandfather describing WWII internment to his grandkid. At the time he was the same age as his grandkid is now and it was a powerful story to a six-year-old.


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When I first moved to Hawaii I lived in a very local neighborhood. It was great, wonderful people, close to the beach, with a fantastic view. Only problem was the two or three 'ice' houses nearby. One evening while out walking the dog I was attacked by a guy and his pit bull. He was obviously high on ice. He tried to get his dog to attack us and was yelling f**kin' haole. He thinks he's 'local' but he's not. Fortunately, the dog was young and didn't fully respond to his commands. Instead he engaged in 'play fighting' with my dog. I was very upset by this incident and almost left Hawaii. A few months later the same guy attacked a cashier in a store. He want to jail for that.

I talked with several haoles who've been here a long time. Many have experienced similiar incidents. With the recent ice epidemic it's getting worse.
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Why call it "ice" when you can just call it what it is, methamphetamine. Does "ice" make it sound more like something to blame for violent, racist behavior?
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I went to school in a very small town. No homework on Wednesdays--church night. *Prayers in the school. *The Jesus people or Jesus freak thing was just getting going when I was finishing high school. *Nearly everyday someone was telling me to get saved. *

My family did not fit in. *

I was also the brainiac girl with glasses. *Didn't play well in my home town where boys were supposed to be number one and girls were supposed to marry them and have babies. *

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Usually the longer a word is, the more simple it is. For instance, "ice" tells you both too much and not enough about what it's describing, whereas my five-syllabler tells you exactly what it is.

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Assuming it's built from familiar roots using recognized rules...

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