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Old 04-05-2019, 08:44 AM   #1
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Help me with a Task program/app

Sigh. Google finally carried through on its threat to take away functionality in Google Tasks (yet another application Google developed, then trashed). It no longer opens full page, separately from Calendar. It removed the capability of supporting multiple levels of subtasks. I can't see my "notes" (comments) to tasks, which I used to keep track of e.g. dates and content for phone calls concerning certain tasks.

I consider myself a connoisseur of task programs. I've been searching for the perfect one since good old Sidekick, accessed on an IBM XT by pressing a Ctrl-alt sequence.

Google tasks wasn't perfect, but it was darn near perfect for me. I couldn't have survived my last few years at w*rk without it. Multiple levels of subtasks were a must to break down the innumerable steps to completing anything at my job. Added notes that could be hidden or displayed. (e.g. "3rd reminder phone call about X subject on 11/3/2017. No response yet." I also loved having multiple lists, for home, work, an especially lengthy project.

I could have used sharing and color coding, but it wasn't essential. But I DIDN'T need GANTT charts, integration with GTD, project completion charts. In other words, I didn't need a complex project management program, just a task list that allows infinite subtasks and infinite text.

OK, after that long and tedious explanation (I am VERY distressed about this) - any suggestions?
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Old 04-05-2019, 08:58 AM   #2
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We use Trello for our smaller projects and it's good enough, but there's several others:

https://helpdeskgeek.com/reviews/bes...vs-wunderlist/

You probably tried them all Beyond that, sorry, no helpful insights.
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Is it just the web interface for Tasks that was changed? Is there still the same functionality in the app itself?
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:10 PM   #4
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No - functionality was removed. Only one level of subtasks is now supported, and text notes to tasks appear to have been removed. A second round of clicking is required to display a task and its (single) level of subtasks. It is unusable at least for my purposes.

Except for the fact google does this all the time, I cannot fathom why they would remove functionality from an already-built application that required no more than minimal updating.
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:22 PM   #5
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Google has basically went through an identity crisis over the past few months. I believe they think their footprint has gotten a little too wide and are trying to get back to the roots of what made their company popular; hence, the removal of Google +.

In your search, if you find a suitable replacement (preferably free) I'd be interested to see what you recommend as you seem like a power user.
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:15 PM   #6
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task breakdown and tracking apps... wait a minute.. your sig line says you're RETIRED!



never mind the diversion. sorry. back to the "task at hand"...
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:23 PM   #7
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I love task lists. How do people remember all the steps associated with ... with, well EVERYTHING these days? I'm planning a trip for a group of friends later this month, and breaking it down into individual steps made me MUCH less anxious. Remind everyone to get their cell phone numbers in? Check. Send out third or fourth email asking for input on the itinerary? Check. (Necessary in case people start thinking I'm a dictatress.) Etc.

I just got a new phone. There are myriad tasks associated with the phone. Register here, there. Ask questions about why some apps didn't transfer. Make sure second line with old provider discontinued. It's all in the task list, with notes. Or, was. Google killed off subtask levels.
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Old 04-05-2019, 02:40 PM   #8
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We use Trello for our smaller projects and it's good enough, but there's several others:

https://helpdeskgeek.com/reviews/bes...vs-wunderlist/

You probably tried them all Beyond that, sorry, no helpful insights.
Wunderlist has apparently been acquired by Microsoft and will be killed off eventually. I visited the site, and it asked for either a microsoft or an educational account. I think I have both, but I don't want another task app that dies soon. Trello seemed more like project management.
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Personally I like todoist. My favorite feature is that I can postpone a task to the future, and then it won't show up again until that date arrived. It can do a bunch of what you mentioned. I don't know about taking notes, since I don't need that.
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I currently have text notes on a task, and I was able to add them just now, so it hasn't gone away. I've always accessed it via the web, usually through Gmail, so this may be different than what you're used to, but I click the pencil to add notes, and the beginning of the note shows up in the sidebar.
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task breakdown and tracking apps... wait a minute.. your sig line says you're RETIRED!



never mind the diversion. sorry. back to the "task at hand"...
As I mentioned to the younger guys in the beer-brewing club "Yep, I'm retired so I don't have much free time, I'm already busy doing all the things I want to do, and there's lots of 'em!"


Plus, that got me subscribed to this thread, so I can follow. I just put things on my calendar (Google and/or the Task list in my email client, Thunderbird (from the mozilla/FireFox people). Or create a list in a LibreOffice spreadsheet. Something more sophisticated might be nice.


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I am checking out "Toodledo" - more powerful than I need, but the free version does not allow subtasks. However, the "outline" feature within does. I am probably going to ditch it. Can't believe I'm relying on paper again.
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Trello seemed more like project management.

It's basically multiplayer todo stickers. We also use it for solo projects (no PM) and individuals that want to structure their todo's.
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Update: I've tried Wunderlist, Todoist, and Toodledo. Lack of multiple-level subtasks and/or notes were the killer for these.

I ended up with a program I used years ago - Gqueues (horrible name). It has these sine qua non functions, though it contains more features than I need, and has put two desirable features that used to be free - synching with google calendar and mobile access - into its premium model. I may end up paying the $25/year for premium, but FIRE has reduced the need for both of those features.

Other desirable features - one-keystroke creation of any level of subtasks and/or tags, easy rearrangement of tasks.

I'm not sure why it doesn't show higher on "best task list" reviews, maybe because it's one of the older ones.
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Look at Smartsheet.com
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Thanks, Dave, for the suggestions. But Smartsheet seemed more like a project management program rather than a task list, mainly aimed at organizations - and no free option except for the 2 week trial. And Things appeared to be Apple-only.

Has anyone ever seen a good explanation for why Google REMOVES functionality (or kills) existing popular applications? It seems like it would be more trouble to go that route than just continue the programs. This is the 4th Google application I used that has been in some way: Others were: Google notebook, which was AHEAD of MS Onenote and Evernote. Google homepage, which had some great features. And Google Reader, one of the best RSS readers. I just don't get why Google kills off some of its either popular, or at least longstanding and inoffensive, programs.
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Google tasks wasn't perfect, but it was darn near perfect for me. I couldn't have survived my last few years at w*rk without it. Multiple levels of subtasks were a must to break down the innumerable steps to completing anything at my job. Added notes that could be hidden or displayed. (e.g. "3rd reminder phone call about X subject on 11/3/2017. No response yet." I also loved having multiple lists, for home, work, an especially lengthy project.
I haven't heard sidekick for a long long time.

Google notes is fairly popular available on PC and phone.

Google task on my PC and my phone:

I use google task within the 'sidebar' of Gmail.
Also on my Android phone app.
Only 1 level of subtask tho.



Android app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tasks&hl=en_US
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