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Old 04-12-2016, 09:03 AM   #221
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Originally Posted by ERD50 View Post
Not according to surveys:

(I had trouble loading a screenshot, but if you choose "BEV" and "Purchase", it shows "Reducing Environmental Impact" to be the Number #1 motivation for purchase.)
Yes, the market in California places a higher priority on the environment than the national market. Even in California, if you add Lease to Buy the number is only 22% that put that up as the number one reason.

From a "perceived" standpoint of "less gas = better for the environment", less than 4% of the national market values that highly enough to override other priorities and buy a hybrid.

As for the market growth of plugins, yes, I include cars such as the Volt in which you get the benifits of the electric motor. I would prefer not to include "blended" hybrids such as the Plug In Prius, however I don't believe there is really a way to split that out.

And yes, the advantages are most obvious with the Teslas. However, all the Electrics have that smooth, quiet drive with 100% torque available from a stop.

I have spoken with Leaf, Volt and i3 owners that all swear they will never go back.
The Leaf owners I know that no longer drive a Leaf, drive a Volt. And the Volt owners I know that no longer drive a Volt drive a Tesla or Leaf.

The benifits are easy to see, regardless of the price point.
The Leaf will have slow sales until their next gen hits the dealers, the second gen Volt and Bolt should do very well, and the S and X are still going gangbusters.

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Old 04-12-2016, 02:23 PM   #222
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Originally Posted by mpeirce View Post
Since about 45% of Telsa new car sales are to California folks, I'm assuming the Model 3 reservations are roughly the same.

I don't see these same people swapping out even the cheap(er) Tesla for a Chevy. During the years I lived in the Bay Area, I don't recall knowing a single person who owned a Chevy. Sure there are Chevrolet's in California, but I just don't see most well-to-do Californians who want to signal their eco-credentials to their neighbors choosing the Chevy to do so.
I'd be wary about buying a Chevy, not because of status reasons, but concerns about build quality and reliability.

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Old 04-13-2016, 08:25 AM   #223
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Lithium bubble?

Should have seen that one coming.

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