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Old 08-16-2010, 11:34 AM   #41
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Do I detect a bit of climate envy?
We'll be chewing ice cubes in Sept. when it hits 105 with only fans and it takes two days before the fog comes in. Miserable climate!
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Anyone operate with a humidistat? I have one tied into the A/C system that allows the unit to activate based on humidity alone and not the temperature. It's designed to function if you are away from home for some period of time. I set the humidistat to 65% and the temperature to 90 degrees and the A/C unit operates based on these settings. Basic idea is to eliminate mildew. I never tried living in the house with settings of 65% humidity and maybe 80-81 degrees temperature. I could live like that but would be tough putting up with DW.
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Do I detect a bit of climate envy?
Oh maybe a tad or two...

Right now I'm delighted to report it's only 94 degrees!
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78 keeps it nice a cool. When I leave during the day, I bump it up to 82. Even at 82 it still feels somewhat cool when I return home.
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80F when humid.
85F when dry.
Didn't have A/C 'til I retired.
Window unit downstairs.
Upstairs bedroom has window fan.
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The low humidity of the SouthWest means a setting of 78degF is enough to turn "115deg dry heat" into "dry cool". Can't afford to set it any lower than that. Highest bill last year was in the $400 already, and there has been a rate increase this year. Maybe in the $500.

Up in 2nd home in the boonies, I rarely use AC even though temperature sometimes gets to 85. With front door and back sliding doors wide open, the mountain breeze provides enough comfort.
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I live in north Florida and keep the a/c set at 75* with ceiling fans going as well. I tried 78* but just wasn't comfortable.
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80F when humid.
85F when dry.
Didn't have A/C 'til I retired.
Window unit downstairs.
Upstairs bedroom has window fan.
Looks like we only have one person who is more cold blooded (or cheaper) than me responding. For me: 82 when home alone; 78 or 80 when SO is home.

I didn't run the AC more than five times a year (when friends or family were visiting) when I lived alone.
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Looks like we only have one person who is more cold blooded (or cheaper) than me responding. For me: 82 when home alone; 78 or 80 when SO is home.

I didn't run the AC more than five times a year (when friends or family were visiting) when I lived alone.
I really don't like A/C.
I also don't have a clothes dryer machine.
Probably why I could retire on $25K/year.
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I really don't like A/C.
I also don't have a clothes dryer machine.
Probably why I could retire on $25K/year.
I'm not a fan of AC either. But, I currently have too many bad habits to pull off $25K/year: Girlfriend, travel, steak, whisky, beer, wine, among others.

You are probably more content; but, then again, you should be wiser than me: You have almost 20 years more experience with living.
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I'm not a fan of AC either.
You would be if it were 105 there as it is here now...
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75-78 when I am home, depending on my activity level. 80 if I am really lazy. I use the ceiling fan in the late afternoon if I am home.

85 when I am out during the day.

Sometimes down to 74 at bedtime. That one degree below 75 is such a luxury.
I got home today about 3 hours ago (around 1:30 PM), and moved my thermostat from 85 to 75.

It is now 86 inside my house. (Where's the "sweating profusely" emoticon? Just kidding.) It is 92 outside. Apparently the A/C is working beautifully but I have to get someone to fix the attic fan, to lower the temperature up there. I just haven't got around to it yet. I am perfectly comfortable with the ceiling fan on, as long as I am not doing any physically grueling work.
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It is now 86 inside my house. (Where's the "sweating profusely" emoticon? ) It is 92 outside. Apparently the A/C is working beautifully but I have to get someone to fix the attic fan, to lower the temperature up there.
The handyman/carpenter we used for some home repairs not long ago mentioned that his usual rate was $30 per hour for carpentry work. But from May to October he raised his rate to $100 an hour for non-emergency work in the attic as a way to strongly discourage people from scheduling attic work that time of year.
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The handyman/carpenter we used for some home repairs not long ago mentioned that his usual rate was $30 per hour for carpentry work. But from May to October he raised his rate to $100 an hour for non-emergency work in the attic as a way to strongly discourage people from scheduling attic work that time of year.
That's why I am waiting. Plus, it would just be inhumane to ask anyone to work up there in this heat. I have had this attic fan problem going for several years, so it isn't an emergency (and doesn't really bother me that much). I do need to get it fixed if I ever plan to sell this place, though. So, it is on my list for wintertime repairs.
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I got home today about 3 hours ago (around 1:30 PM), and moved my thermostat from 85 to 75.

It is now 86 inside my house. (Where's the "sweating profusely" emoticon? Just kidding.) It is 92 outside. Apparently the A/C is working beautifully but I have to get someone to fix the attic fan, to lower the temperature up there. I just haven't got around to it yet.
Something doesn't sound right with this. Are you saying your attic is so hot the heat is overpowering the ability of your A/C to cool down the duct work?
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Something doesn't sound right with this. Are you saying your attic is so hot the heat is overpowering the ability of your A/C to cool down the duct work?
The A/C works wonderfully at night, when it's cooler, or during the cooler days of early and late summer - - it's just when the heat is brutal that it fails to cool.

The A/C guys who tested it earlier in the year, said that the gradient was what it should be so the A/C is cooling, but that the problem is that it's so much hotter in the attic during peak summer heat than it is outside.

The fan that lets that hot air out from the attic through the roof, cooling the attic, isn't working. Frank thinks it might be the fan's thermostat that starts the fan, or maybe it has an on/off switch that needs to be hooked up somehow, but then again it might be the fan itself I suppose.

I don't know anything other than what they told me. I need to have it fixed, so that we could sell when we get around to it. Nobody wants to buy a house that won't cool in the summer. I just made a list of such repair jobs that I want to get done before putting the house on the market.

It's still 86 in here, but that will go down to 75 by 8-9 PM.
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It's still 86 in here, but that will go down to 75 by 8-9 PM.
Sounds like you need to keep your thermostat set at 75 or so until you get the attic ventilation problem solved. Your A/C is probably working so hard to overcome the 10 degree setback in the heat of the day that you're using more electricity than you're saving by going up to 85.

But I'm no engineer so this is just my estimation...
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That doesn't sound right. I would thing that there is air leaking somewhere or the unit is not sized right for the space, or the return air is not sized right. In our old house, the AC was running constantly. It was putting out the right temp air. The problem, according to the A/C guy, was the return air slot was too small. We enlarged the area, and presto, the ac began to cool the house. You could feel the increased air flow coming from the ducts. The leak in air ducts is quite common in older homes. It has been around 100 + for at least the last few weeks around here. Our house is kept at 80, where we set it, and the ac appears to run 15 to 30 min out of each hour.

However, you are right, if the attic is not properly ventilated, it will heat up the house. Let us know if fixing the attic fan corrects the problem.
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When I had my AC replaced a few years ago, it was in spring and it seemed to work fine. Then came summer a few months later, and this new AC did not cool as well as the one it replaced. Something was very wrong!

So, I went up to the attic to inspect. Golly, it was COOL up there. It did not take me long to find out that the installer did such a lousy job that I had TREMENDOUS air leaks at several places. The new AC is an industrial unit that uses 18" duct instead of the usual 15", hence he put in some new duct work.

I could have called the guy back and yelled at him, but since I was already up there, decided to patch it up with duct tape myself. Worked like a charm!

It is difficult to get good work anymore nowadays. You can see now why I like to do things myself. It's not just the money, but the aggravation of dealing with these careless workers and having to fix things up after them.
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Sounds like you need to keep your thermostat set at 75 or so until you get the attic ventilation problem solved. Your A/C is probably working so hard to overcome the 10 degree setback in the heat of the day that you're using more electricity than you're saving by going up to 85.

But I'm no engineer so this is just my estimation...
This is why I don't do a drastic setback, except when I'll be gone for a few days.

Even with a new a/c unit, I had trouble keeping cool during the 100+ days, until I installed the radiant barrier. Now, even when it's 105 or so, the a/c can maintain 75 degrees indoors.
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